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always i'm getting this problem, i have a nice CSS created for a website, after hosting the site i got many comments that people cant see the website clearly in firefox, it's very urgent so please telle how to fix it, also tha alignment and everything i schanged in firefox, but the site is very neat in IE, what can i do?? thanks for all who r answering! |
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shiro
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Yokohama, Japan
Posts: 2,605
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IE is not a standards compliant browser, but Firefox is. So what you should do is design your sites for firefox, then add conditional css pages for IE. Someone can probably elaborate on that better than me. But the key point I am trying to get at is that you should design for firefox and then adjust for IE, not the other way around. |
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Semantics, yay.
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Salem, Massachusetts
Posts: 1,128
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Years and years ago, when I was a noob (like you are now), I recall testing only in IE (I think it was 5.5 at the time, maybe 6?) and being proud. My boss would come back to me and say, "I love it, but so-and-so says it isn't looking right in Netscape/Firefox/Insert other browser..." In my head, I would say to myself, "Well screw that person, everyone is using IE." The boss said, "Make it look right in the other browsers." and so began a nightmare of weeks trying to get our few sites looking right in other browsers. Until one day, someone smarter than me said "Ignore how it looks in IE and make it look right in Netscape/Firefox. When that's done, here's how you tweak it for IE." I'll tell you, tweaking for IE is so much easier (and ultimately, correct) than tweaking for other browsers. Footnotes version: Code and test in Firefox, then tweak your style sheets for IE using conditional comments. |
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 5
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Browser specific rendering is inefficient. Why waste the resources when you could just invest some time getting to know the standards? While it is true that each browser does render pages differently there are overlaps and it is possible to gain consistent appearance without resorting to such wasteful tricks as independent styles or markup. The W3C's validation tools are your friends. The documentation on their site takes some getting used to as it was written for people making browsers, however, W3 Schools is an excellent resource. |
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or just Kris
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Brussels - Belgium
Posts: 119
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IMO IE7 renders a lot more standards-compliant than IE6, when using the right doctype. Nice to see the efforts of WaSP and Zeldman to name but a few are paying off. Make me happy to read posts like: Talking with Microsoft about IE.next and Opera complains to Europe over IE lock-in Also: the fact that IE(7) is now an automatic update for the most recent Win OS'es in many regions means most users will automatically get the latest version of IE (and a decent one pretty soon i hope). Don't get me wrong, i'm not promoting anything here. Just trying not to scare off people too much... Last edited by KrisMarissens : 16-12-2007 at 18:01. |
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Grumpy old man
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Japan
Posts: 1,692
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More importantly, which relates to Haku's earlier point, Microsoft through various different means is slowly being cajoled into making IE7 more standards compliant and they have made various comments recently about continuing that trend. I think they're slowly getting the message, that if they continue to fuck over the development community, by ignoring web standards, it's a battle that even they aren't going to win. So, by developing for a standards compliant browser like Firefox, you're writing pages which will hopefully work perfectly in future versions of IE. |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,340
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Microsoft has the greatest resources (b-b-b-b-billions of dollars!) available of any browser vendor. It's pathetic that they can't get it right. There's only one web browser worse than IE and that's whatever-the-shit is built into the PS3. It's awful. |
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or just Kris
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Brussels - Belgium
Posts: 119
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From what i've read its user agent string is cloaked, falsely reporting as Mozilla/5.0 (PLAYSTATION 3; 1.00). a bit of reading: PS3 browser CSS rendering bug - ♡ - by Ti "Playstation 3 Browser Specs" by Robert Giordano |
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