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29-05-2006, 04:42
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Honestly? There are image-hosting services, I believe host well around 30megs, same with E-mail too, hosting around the same amount all for free, same goes for YouTube,so why should it be difficult to host 3 to 5 kelobytes worth of data in HTML? So my question to you is why not? Last edited by Ytrav4 : 29-05-2006 at 05:04. |
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29-05-2006, 11:21
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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The hosting company I'm with has a plan that's 75MB of webspace, 3GB of bandwidth monthly and costs $25/year. You seem to own a computer, surely you can afford $25 every 365 days. And $10/year for a domain. Quote:
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29-05-2006, 12:12
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sanddancer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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hmm, I think http://www.host.sk/ still do their free package without ads...im not sure though - i cba to check either. |
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29-05-2006, 14:07
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now with added beard
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Liverpool
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www.freeola.com free lunches for all !! you gotta use their connection though ... everyone gotta make money somehow .... fuck signatures
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29-05-2006, 15:15
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fucksocks™
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: in the boosh
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Honestly? Because hosting searchable databases of images (flickr) and movies (youtube) creates traffic, which in turn attracts advertisers and thus revenue for the host. Your personal site on the other hand, will use up disc-space and bandwidth whilst creating no revenue for the host. Thats why not. sigh |
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29-05-2006, 16:15
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How would free-web hosting be less of a service than free image-hosting E-mail or Video hosting, and thus have lower traffic than the others. Keep in mind that it wouldn't be just one personal web-site it would be many hosted in the same site just as photo-bucket doesn't just host one image. Search able data base? Is that the only reason, doesn't Google do that? I'm not trying to argue with you I just don't understand, why we have already many free services and it doesn't seem that quality web-hosting is one of them. PS: And that's without your lovely condescending sigh. Nice website by the way looks like you got skills, I myself am in love with Japanese culture. Last edited by Ytrav4 : 29-05-2006 at 19:59. |
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29-05-2006, 16:37
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Something about your avatar looks like the kinda guy that would give out free lunches, who is that? |
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30-05-2006, 06:22
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fucksocks™
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Though many services appear "free", the reality is that there is always a cost involved somewhere, to someone. And you can bet the majority of these 'free' providers aren't doing it out of the goodness of their heart! In order to use these 'free' services you are agreeing to be exposed to their advertising and or parting with some of your personal details and/or content; in with that there is also community building and brand reforcement, for creating revenue further down the line. How is your personal site going to make them money? It doesn't have their advertising, your content isn't in their database, your not adding yourself to their community, your not reinforcing their branding. Tell me the business model that is going to make your 'free' host money? |
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30-05-2006, 09:39
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Can traffic alone be good enough to fund a site? Traffic equals popularity, which means there is a service you provide that people have a need for. I can see the success in sites like New-grounds coming from there humble beginnings but evolving into what it is today because of that general need, and still remain free.It has been know for satisfied users making a willing donation just because they appreciated the service. When we say personal I'm talking about a multitude of personal websites in a central database, each one hosted under there sub-domain, and thus should give them traffic since they have to go threw the main site to reach the sub directories which locate your site. As far as advertising that could be located on their homepage so creating or editing your site will eventually expose you to a advertising, just not located on your site. This is how Image-bucket works and also the method of you-tube, and they seem to not have difficulty in making money.. How can you believe it can't be done, with sites that upload video files rangeing well worth over 30megs for each file, compared to the few kilobytes of data in webpages. And just in case you don't know there are 1024 kilobytes in a meg. What is the avarage file size of a webpage compared to a mid resolution video file? NOTE: My ego is not involved in this agrument I don't care if I'm wrong I just want to be showed how I'm wrong.  |
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07-06-2006, 11:21
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All those sites you mentioned - the free services ones - whether it's Gmail, Photobucket, or YouTube - are ALL ad-supported. Nearly all (if not all) pages of those sites feature advertisements. If you drive traffic to those sites - like when you check your email, upload a photo, browse for videos, and so on you're constantly exposed to ads. Companies will pay for their ads to show up. Depending on the contract, they'll either pay for a certain amount of time/exposure or they'll pay the CTR (Click-Through-Rate). Advertising revenue is what keeps much of the internet and nearly all television going. You're looking for free web hosting with no ads. Therefore, as was clearly explained by maxh, you're not doing anything but sucking up bandwidth and server space - no matter how little. The amount is insignificant. How is the hosting company supposed to make money without ads or you opening your tight-wad wallet? And your ego is getting in the way considering you seem to have only the most basic, superficial understanding of how things work and yet dare to condescend to people. What are you 12? 15 maybe? |
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07-06-2006, 11:57
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Shitcasket™
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Brighton
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Also, the cost of the time it's taken you to misunderstand and argue your point could have been better used to buy some low cost hosting like 123-reg.co.uk. A few quid for domain name registeration and hosting is practically free! Sowhatsthefuckingproblem? |
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07-06-2006, 12:37
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Jeez come on, at what point did I speak to ANYONE in a condescending manner. You find were I said something condescending. WHY ARE YOU MAD????? What did I say that made you upset, to the point you speak to me like that? Is it the fact I'm asking for a free-service, and I'm some kind of bum? I have money that's not the point. I don't want to fight with anyone, your atacking me not vice versa. I just don't understand thats all, or maybe there are still loose ends, but everyone gets mad because I don't just take word for it or thinks I'm some know it all. I understand what was said about the advertiseing and revune, if you read my earlier comments, maybe you can see were I'm coming from, and see were I mention that. I said........ As far as advertising that could be located on their homepage so creating or editing your site will eventually expose you to a advertising, just not located on your site. Get it? just like photo-bucket, the images themselves are not advertised but the content that holds them are. Last edited by Ytrav4 : 07-06-2006 at 12:53. |
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07-06-2006, 12:55
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Never had a fucking problem as you put it, I'm just trying to ask a question. |
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