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mk2phil · 08-05-2006, 08:24

I have the following code at the top of the page:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns:fo="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format" lang="en" xml:lang="en">

It has to be done like this becuase of the way the developers have coded it. Does this cause IE6 to operate in Quirks mode - i.e. the same way IE5/5.5 would render the page?

Thanks

smallbeer · 08-05-2006, 08:34

finbarr · 08-05-2006, 09:23

AFAIK anything put before the dtd makes ie operate in quirks mode

mk2phil · 08-05-2006, 10:00

cheers guys. F/F is 100% perfect, but even using the tantek hack isn't fixing the problem in IE6. Stumped now.

smallbeer · 08-05-2006, 10:08

link?

smallbeer · 08-05-2006, 10:11

and you might want to ask your developers why it has to be done this way.

weldo · 08-05-2006, 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbarr

AFAIK

??? go on then - enlighten me ....

cam · 08-05-2006, 11:07

as far as i know

finbarr · 08-05-2006, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by weldo

??? go on then - enlighten me ....

haha... my thoughts exactly when I first saw it posted

weldo · 08-05-2006, 11:56

ahh ...

mk2phil · 08-05-2006, 12:10

Is it only IE that reverts to quirks mode when you pre-empt the DTD or does mozilla also do this?

finbarr · 08-05-2006, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by mk2phil

Is it only IE that reverts to quirks mode when you pre-empt the DTD or does mozilla also do this?

only ie afaik

smallbeer · 08-05-2006, 12:31

quick answer, no.

longer answer would go into the fact that different browsers have different modes and different "sniffers" for entering those modes.

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs...7s_Quirks_Mode
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/a...compatmode.asp
http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/doctype/

You'll only ever really deal with IE's.

finbarr · 08-05-2006, 12:34

"Content sent as text/xml or other XML or XHTML MIME types is always handled in strict mode"

smallbeer · 08-05-2006, 12:36

is that in reply to me?

finbarr · 08-05-2006, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by smallbeer

is that in reply to me?

no...

"Is it only IE that reverts to quirks mode when you pre-empt the DTD or does mozilla also do this?"

in reply to that

smallbeer · 08-05-2006, 12:51

right. and how does that answer his question?

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mk2phil Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 96	XML header is killing my DTD I have the following code at the top of the page: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html xmlns:fo="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format" lang="en" xml:lang="en"> It has to be done like this becuase of the way the developers have coded it. Does this cause IE6 to operate in Quirks mode - i.e. the same way IE5/5.5 would render the page? Thanks

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08-05-2006, 09:23	#3 (permalink)
finbarr who the fuck am i? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: london Posts: 2,690	AFAIK anything put before the dtd makes ie operate in quirks mode

08-05-2006, 10:00	#4 (permalink)
mk2phil Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 96	cheers guys. F/F is 100% perfect, but even using the tantek hack isn't fixing the problem in IE6. Stumped now.

08-05-2006, 10:08	#5 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,206	link?

08-05-2006, 10:11	#6 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,206	and you might want to ask your developers why it has to be done this way.

08-05-2006, 12:10	#11 (permalink)
mk2phil Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 96	Is it only IE that reverts to quirks mode when you pre-empt the DTD or does mozilla also do this?

08-05-2006, 12:31	#13 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,206	quick answer, no. longer answer would go into the fact that different browsers have different modes and different "sniffers" for entering those modes. http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs...7s_Quirks_Mode http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/a...compatmode.asp http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/doctype/ You'll only ever really deal with IE's.

08-05-2006, 12:34	#14 (permalink)
finbarr who the fuck am i? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: london Posts: 2,690	"Content sent as text/xml or other XML or XHTML MIME types is always handled in strict mode"

08-05-2006, 12:36	#15 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,206	is that in reply to me?

08-05-2006, 12:51	#17 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,206	right. and how does that answer his question?

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