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stevo · 08-11-2005, 09:56

http://www.dotcomlogotypes.com/logos...signal-com.gif

any ideas? Cheers

finbarr · 08-11-2005, 09:58

that link just goes to the homepage so cant see what you mean?

sub · 08-11-2005, 10:04

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Originally Posted by stevo

http://www.dotcomlogotypes.com/logos...signal-com.gif

any ideas? Cheers

Whitingx · 08-11-2005, 10:11

This may be useful as a starting point;

Envelope Distort

Dusteh · 08-11-2005, 11:12

I can't think of a convincing way to achive that in illustrator alone. Personally if I had to recreate it I would model it in 3D, render it off fairly high res and then trace it using the pen tool. Its the same shape overlaid twice.

Wouldn't be pixel perfect correct, but if your tracing properly over a high res image, no one will ever know.

sub · 08-11-2005, 11:16

Or export the model through Swift for complex shapes - saves all that tracing malarkey!

Dusteh · 08-11-2005, 11:18

argh... not got swift

Might have to have a gander at that sometime... keep meaning to use my 3D modelling skills more in my 2D work. How clean are the paths it outputs? Its not like Illustrators trace tool is it? ie: shite for smooth corporate logos like the one above.

sub · 08-11-2005, 11:25

Never used it for logo work but you can select the curve/detail quality which should be fine for print as the file size issue isn't a problem.

dan · 08-11-2005, 11:57

Why the 3D? Its a bunch of sliced up circles use half a beachball as a guide - if you must, bit of playing around and you'd be there. Flip it. Divide the bits in the middle and recolour it.

gray · 08-11-2005, 12:05

always with the 3d

Mik · 08-11-2005, 12:27

can't anyone use google?

sub · 08-11-2005, 12:29

Assuming that Dusteh isn't going to simply rip the design, using a 3D model would save a lot of time trying to redraw an object like this in perspective and allow him to adjust the polar angle without having to start again.

sub · 08-11-2005, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Mik

can't anyone use google?

What's google?

Dusteh · 08-11-2005, 12:43

exactly, if you were building something like that from scratch and wanted a realistic fall-off and perspective on the curves, simply building it by hand out of circular 2D shapes would be a nightmare.

Admittedly when tracing over the 3D render, using elliptic shapes would be far easier than tracing it... but you would still need the source render to line them up correctly. For a corporate logo you would need that kind of accuracy. Might pass it off on headed paper, but on the side of a lorry a bodge stands out more.

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stevo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 357	How you do this in illustrator??? http://www.dotcomlogotypes.com/logos...signal-com.gif any ideas? Cheers

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08-11-2005, 09:58	#2 (permalink)
finbarr who the fuck am i? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: london Posts: 2,660	that link just goes to the homepage so cant see what you mean?

08-11-2005, 10:11	#4 (permalink)
Whitingx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 63	This may be useful as a starting point; Envelope Distort

08-11-2005, 11:12	#5 (permalink)
Dusteh Sir digby chicken caesar Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,289	I can't think of a convincing way to achive that in illustrator alone. Personally if I had to recreate it I would model it in 3D, render it off fairly high res and then trace it using the pen tool. Its the same shape overlaid twice. Wouldn't be pixel perfect correct, but if your tracing properly over a high res image, no one will ever know.

08-11-2005, 11:16	#6 (permalink)
sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 4,722	Or export the model through Swift for complex shapes - saves all that tracing malarkey!

08-11-2005, 11:18	#7 (permalink)
Dusteh Sir digby chicken caesar Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,289	argh... not got swift Might have to have a gander at that sometime... keep meaning to use my 3D modelling skills more in my 2D work. How clean are the paths it outputs? Its not like Illustrators trace tool is it? ie: shite for smooth corporate logos like the one above.

08-11-2005, 11:25	#8 (permalink)
sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 4,722	Never used it for logo work but you can select the curve/detail quality which should be fine for print as the file size issue isn't a problem.

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dan Iris Folder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: smokey Posts: 2,649	Why the 3D? Its a bunch of sliced up circles use half a beachball as a guide - if you must, bit of playing around and you'd be there. Flip it. Divide the bits in the middle and recolour it.

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gray i still want paying Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: newcastle, uk Posts: 4,768	always with the 3d

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Mik Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,758	can't anyone use google?

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sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 4,722	Assuming that Dusteh isn't going to simply rip the design, using a 3D model would save a lot of time trying to redraw an object like this in perspective and allow him to adjust the polar angle without having to start again.

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08-11-2005, 12:43	#14 (permalink)
Dusteh Sir digby chicken caesar Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,289	exactly, if you were building something like that from scratch and wanted a realistic fall-off and perspective on the curves, simply building it by hand out of circular 2D shapes would be a nightmare. Admittedly when tracing over the 3D render, using elliptic shapes would be far easier than tracing it... but you would still need the source render to line them up correctly. For a corporate logo you would need that kind of accuracy. Might pass it off on headed paper, but on the side of a lorry a bodge stands out more.