[dame]

How much would you charge a customer for about 8 different graphics on there homepage? Need some guidance in this, not really charged for web work before.

[d*d]

here we go............. work out an hourly rate(r), then decide how long it will take you(l). Take the two figures and multiply to find the cost(c).
c = r x l
Thed client will be most interested in c, but may want to know r and l also.

[Rakan]

Well, it depends on how long it would take you... I would first figure out a "per-image" price, then do what d*d said, and pick whichever is more...

[gray]

i always disagree with simply charging by the hour

lets say designer A is poor, and designer B is good

designer A hourly rate - £10 hour
designer B houtly rate - £30 hour

designer B gets the job done in 2 hours, and there are no changes needed - £60 for the job
designer A is poor, takes 8 hours to do the job, and it requires changes the next day for another 2 hours - £100 for the job

so by being better than designer A, B gets pad less?

You need to quote how long its going to take you, and not go above that unless the client changes the brief imho

wow im turning into pgo

[pgo]

Originally Posted by gray

wow im turning into pgo

Haha. Everyone laugh at the silly American!

I think you should charge a flat rate based on d*d's suggestion, but always round up a bit.

Say your rate is 30, takes you 3 hours - that's 90. Charge 100. Or more. Whatever.

[jase1000]

Doesn't work like that Gray. No client is just gonna let you just dick about for hours on end at their expense. I always state how many hours I've allocated (based on the brief) from the start.

Anything over and above the brief is extra of course

[gray]

which is what i said...

[d*d]

Originally Posted by gray

You need to quote how long its going to take you, and not go above that unless the client changes the brief imho

Thats what I said

[gray]

indeed

[jase1000]

Originally Posted by gray

which is what i said...

So you did, I should concentrate more.

[gray]

haha
we all agree then

[Mik]

Originally Posted by gray

i always disagree with simply charging by the hour

lets say designer A is poor, and designer B is good

designer A hourly rate - £10 hour
designer B houtly rate - £30 hour

designer B gets the job done in 2 hours, and there are no changes needed - £60 for the job
designer A is poor, takes 8 hours to do the job, and it requires changes the next day for another 2 hours - £100 for the job

so by being better than designer A, B gets pad less?

You need to quote how long its going to take you, and not go above that unless the client changes the brief imho

wow im turning into pgo

nah you haven't mentioned your back yet.

[jase1000]

Originally Posted by pgo

Say your rate is 30, takes you 3 hours - that's 90. Charge 100. Or more. Whatever.

Yeah but round your hours up, not your numbers. Round numbers always look made up in my book. £474.80 is actually cheaper than £450 if you get my drift.

[d*d]

rounding up in tens of pounds is ok, i can't imagine a quote where there is a number of pence specified

[pgo]

Originally Posted by jase1000

Yeah but round your hours up, not your numbers. Round numbers always look made up in my book. £474.80 is actually cheaper than £450 if you get my drift.

Clever boy. My inexperience shines through.

[sub]

Not sure if I agree entirly with the hourly rate system unless you are working on amendments or freelancing for someone budgeting on a time basis.

For example, a photographer would quote a day or half-day rate as the exact amount of time required varies from job to job. In my experience, your client may not see it as a professional approach as well as not wanting to be bogged down with every piece of information on an estimate such as number of hours and hourly rates.

I would suggest a similar pricing system for your design service. I doubt anyone here could say exactly how many hours it would take to complete a bespoke website for their clients.

[d*d]

Originally Posted by subcircle

Not sure if I agree entirly with the hourly rate system unless you are working on amendments or freelancing for someone budgeting on a time basis.

For example, a photographer would quote a day or half-day rate as the exact amount of time required varies from job to job. In my experience, your client may not see it as a professional approach as well as not wanting to be bogged down with every piece of information on an estimate such as number of hours and hourly rates.

I would suggest a similar pricing system for your design service. I doubt anyone here could say exactly how many hours it would take to complete a bespoke website for their clients.

Whilst this is true, an hourly rate will give you a good idea of what your daily rate should be, you will also need to factor in specialities - if it's complicated photoshop stuff you can charge more per hour than basic artworking, the client size will also be a factor and how much the project will be worth to them- a logo may not take a long time to produce but it has a lot more value than a one off illustration (which may even take longer). I agree that a client will want to see two things how long it will take and how much it will cost, but working out how much to charge - you will need to know your hourly rate

[sub]

So in fact:
ru = rounding up and agg = level of work required then; c = r x l + ru x agg

Simple.

[jase1000]

Haha. Here's a good article on the subject. I've posted it before but it's well worth a read.

[d*d]

Originally Posted by subcircle

ru = rounding up and agg = level of work required then; c = r x l + ru x agg

yup however you may need to look at your relationship with the client, and wether they will be sourcing quotes from elsewhere, if so you may need to go in lower to start of with, client relationship = cr.
Also since ru and agg are aspects of the hourly rate then

c = (r(ru + agg) x l)-cr