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jingle · 09-10-2005, 17:22

You know if you're really just starting it might be an idea to start with a table based layout and progress to CSS. Tables visually break up content, whereas with CSS you have to able to visualise the layout and control it with code which I found daunting initially.

CSS and XHTML is the only way to do things, but not the only way to learn. I started with tables, then introduced CSS to control the links and backgrounds which helped get a feel for it. So for example say you have a table with a banner TD, instead of just dropping in an image, use CSS to give it's dimensions and background-image properties. Similarly, instead of having 4 images for your menu, have a UL with four LIs. That was the first really exciting introduction I had to the power of using CSS to seperate content from looks, and definitely spurred me on to using CSS completely. http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/ is a great site for tips on menus. I learned from Zeldman's book and much trial and error.

Smooth out too! Camomile tea or humming Christmas carols does it for me

There'll be plenty of frustating hours ahead but you'll get there.

irishdunn · 09-10-2005, 18:52

lol, I will be sure to work on it. For the time being I am going to do a whole site in tables right now and then work my way to CSS because it truely is daunting at this stage and I would like to release a site over the next week. I have to redo my whole layout and make it a different width because right now its just 1024x768 and that to my understanding would be bad in most browsers that are under that resolution.

Kukur.puwali · 29-08-2007, 01:58

Hmmm! Joined the forum today and learned the slice and dice thing available in Photoshop. I too was wondering what these photoshop files with website designed in it do.

I also agree that tables are bad bad, as far as content organization is concerned. I have started avoiding frames and tables.

At last thankx pals. I would also request the fellas here to be more careful of their tongues. I saw some bad words here.

pgo · 29-08-2007, 11:43

Way to bring back a 2 year old thread.

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Originally Posted by Kukur.puwali

I would also request the fellas here to be more careful of their tongues. I saw some bad words here.

What gives you the right to "request" anything Mr. 1 Post? Better get used to it if you're going to post here.

centro · 29-08-2007, 12:18

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Originally Posted by irishdunn

Slicing, dont get it. from what I understand you set up a table? i dunno.
this is just a jpeg of the PDF I have:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3947/layout6tz.jpg

thanks...

I would just greatly appreciate a TUT or something.

Cant read the green text. Design needs a kick up the arse.

centro · 29-08-2007, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kukur.puwali

I saw some bad words here.

Hairy cunting tits fuck

proc355 · 29-08-2007, 17:12

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Originally Posted by centro

Hairy cunting tits fuck

you goatse felching blurt snorgling fuckcunter of a civil servant you.

stupid dog · 29-08-2007, 17:41

are you sure you actualy want to spend time coding this design?

but, google is your friend. There are tons and tons of free tutorials out there, from beginer level to expert.

These boards also have lots of links and tutorials as well.

pgo · 29-08-2007, 18:05

Guys. This thread is 2 years old. I don't think irishdunn is going to bother checking.

stuntman · 30-08-2007, 10:14

pat got called a douchbag

hahahaha

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09-10-2005, 17:22	#21 (permalink)
jingle Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 75	You know if you're really just starting it might be an idea to start with a table based layout and progress to CSS. Tables visually break up content, whereas with CSS you have to able to visualise the layout and control it with code which I found daunting initially. CSS and XHTML is the only way to do things, but not the only way to learn. I started with tables, then introduced CSS to control the links and backgrounds which helped get a feel for it. So for example say you have a table with a banner TD, instead of just dropping in an image, use CSS to give it's dimensions and background-image properties. Similarly, instead of having 4 images for your menu, have a UL with four LIs. That was the first really exciting introduction I had to the power of using CSS to seperate content from looks, and definitely spurred me on to using CSS completely. http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/ is a great site for tips on menus. I learned from Zeldman's book and much trial and error. Smooth out too! Camomile tea or humming Christmas carols does it for me There'll be plenty of frustating hours ahead but you'll get there.

09-10-2005, 18:52	#22 (permalink)
irishdunn Im just learnding Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 85	lol, I will be sure to work on it. For the time being I am going to do a whole site in tables right now and then work my way to CSS because it truely is daunting at this stage and I would like to release a site over the next week. I have to redo my whole layout and make it a different width because right now its just 1024x768 and that to my understanding would be bad in most browsers that are under that resolution.

29-08-2007, 01:58	#23 (permalink)
Kukur.puwali Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boo! Behind ya! Posts: 57	Hmmm! Joined the forum today and learned the slice and dice thing available in Photoshop. I too was wondering what these photoshop files with website designed in it do. I also agree that tables are bad bad, as far as content organization is concerned. I have started avoiding frames and tables. At last thankx pals. I would also request the fellas here to be more careful of their tongues. I saw some bad words here.

29-08-2007, 17:41	#28 (permalink)
stupid dog Professional Beer Drinker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New River, Arizona Posts: 90	are you sure you actualy want to spend time coding this design? but, google is your friend. There are tons and tons of free tutorials out there, from beginer level to expert. These boards also have lots of links and tutorials as well.

29-08-2007, 18:05	#29 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	Guys. This thread is 2 years old. I don't think irishdunn is going to bother checking.

30-08-2007, 10:14	#30 (permalink)
stuntman cunning stunts Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,252	pat got called a douchbag hahahaha

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