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seen.to · 07-09-2005, 10:34

Wasn't sure where to put this... Web Standards, Programming or Software - so I put it here instead.

I've been trying out a few in-page HTML editors for my company to integrate into their existing CMS as they are currently using an old Microsoft one which outputs ugly code... not helpful while I'm in the process of converting several thousand pages to standards compliant XHTML/CSS.

So I thought I'd call upon everyones knowledge as to which solutions they've tried.

Requirements... Java based, (everything is run on Sun servers)

Outputs clean/valid code
Ability to insert Flash, and to change the way Flash is inserted to incorporate the Flash Satay method
XML & XSL customizable so I can control what tags are used and which users have access to what... this also needs to include toolbar customization and multiple user groups
No styles inserted inline... I want to control everything via an external stylesheet - the same one as will control the pages... This way the users can enter specific options which I will have pre-assigned through the stylesheet and they will see them as they will appear on the page.
Complete cleansing of documents pasted from Word to plain text forcing the editors to re-format the articles using the in-page HTML editor.

My favorite so far has been xStandard but there isn't a Java version available and the company are not up for using an ActiveX/Java bridge.

At the moment it's down to two contenders:

edit-on Pro: this seems pretty good but the Word import isn't too hot... I've been able to make it produce some pretty nasty code just by pasting Word documents in.

EditLive: I've only just started looking at this one and once again have managed to output some messy code by pasting Word documents.

Has anyone had any experience with either of these or do you have any recommendations as to other solutions to check out.

Cheers.

stealthcow · 07-09-2005, 11:08

word will always generate horrible code unless you strip formatting

cam · 07-09-2005, 11:14

He means the editor should automatically tidy it up.

seen.to · 07-09-2005, 11:16

It sure does :-/

Problem is that there are 15 in-house editors and over 100 freelancers all writing articles and, in the main, their weapon of choice is Word. To get them to all strip formatting isn't going to happen so I need to find an HTML Editor that will do it before they upload their pasted documents.

xStandard did this nicely by converting the pasted text/formatting into plain text with no formatting whatsoever - but it falls over on a couple of the other requirements.

edit: What Cam said

mike_m · 07-09-2005, 12:45

http://www.wysiwygpro.com/ is what we use in our cms, and we've contributed to it's development as well, so we know it in and out - definitely ticks all your boxes and it's PHP/Javascript based so it's fairly easy to make changes.

gray · 07-09-2005, 12:58

i use fckeditor

edit: sorry just read your post, dont think its anywhere near waht you want

07-09-2005, 10:34	#1 (permalink)
seen.to unusual suspect ™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DE, USA Posts: 2,799	In page HTML editor Wasn't sure where to put this... Web Standards, Programming or Software - so I put it here instead. I've been trying out a few in-page HTML editors for my company to integrate into their existing CMS as they are currently using an old Microsoft one which outputs ugly code... not helpful while I'm in the process of converting several thousand pages to standards compliant XHTML/CSS. So I thought I'd call upon everyones knowledge as to which solutions they've tried. Requirements... Java based, (everything is run on Sun servers) Outputs clean/valid code Ability to insert Flash, and to change the way Flash is inserted to incorporate the Flash Satay method XML & XSL customizable so I can control what tags are used and which users have access to what... this also needs to include toolbar customization and multiple user groups No styles inserted inline... I want to control everything via an external stylesheet - the same one as will control the pages... This way the users can enter specific options which I will have pre-assigned through the stylesheet and they will see them as they will appear on the page. Complete cleansing of documents pasted from Word to plain text forcing the editors to re-format the articles using the in-page HTML editor. My favorite so far has been xStandard but there isn't a Java version available and the company are not up for using an ActiveX/Java bridge. At the moment it's down to two contenders: edit-on Pro: this seems pretty good but the Word import isn't too hot... I've been able to make it produce some pretty nasty code just by pasting Word documents in. EditLive: I've only just started looking at this one and once again have managed to output some messy code by pasting Word documents. Has anyone had any experience with either of these or do you have any recommendations as to other solutions to check out. Cheers. __________________ [[proverbs and quotes]] [[blog]] [[work]] [[photowebby - some photo's by me]]

07-09-2005, 11:16	#4 (permalink)
seen.to unusual suspect ™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DE, USA Posts: 2,799	It sure does :-/ Problem is that there are 15 in-house editors and over 100 freelancers all writing articles and, in the main, their weapon of choice is Word. To get them to all strip formatting isn't going to happen so I need to find an HTML Editor that will do it before they upload their pasted documents. xStandard did this nicely by converting the pasted text/formatting into plain text with no formatting whatsoever - but it falls over on a couple of the other requirements. edit: What Cam said __________________ [[proverbs and quotes]] [[blog]] [[work]] [[photowebby - some photo's by me]]

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mike_m Work faster microphone .. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,709	http://www.wysiwygpro.com/ is what we use in our cms, and we've contributed to it's development as well, so we know it in and out - definitely ticks all your boxes and it's PHP/Javascript based so it's fairly easy to make changes. __________________

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stealthcow knocking heads Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,906	word will always generate horrible code unless you strip formatting

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cam vague™ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 5,365	He means the editor should automatically tidy it up.

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gray i still want paying Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: newcastle, uk Posts: 4,728	i use fckeditor edit: sorry just read your post, dont think its anywhere near waht you want

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