Old 11-08-2007, 07:04   #1 (permalink)
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I've been putting up with this 19" LG monitor for the last couple of years after originally thinking it to be quite good; how wrong I was.

Anyway, I've seen what looks to be a nice Samsung monitor on Dabs: link

Are Samsung monitors any good? If so, what d'you reckon about this particular model?
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:23   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know if Samsung is any good (probably are decent, since they make nice TVs). I love the Dell widescreens, though.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:55   #3 (permalink)
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Samsung makes everything from very good to bad monitors.

That specific one sucks for any design work. Colors are terrible...as are viewing angles. However, if you want it for office work, its OK...and cheap
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Old 12-08-2007, 06:29   #4 (permalink)
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Old 12-08-2007, 06:53   #5 (permalink)
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Cheers guys.
I'll have to have a re-think on this. I was quite attracted to the Samsung thing but I don't want to get something that's just gonna be a bog standard monitor.

I reckon it's gonna be worth it to get something that may be more expensive but has a bit more quality to it for design purposes.

I'll check the Dell thing out, but if anyone else has any suggestions, please let me know!



PS. Thanks Sam, I'll check those out.
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:06   #6 (permalink)
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Cheers guys.
I'll have to have a re-think on this. I was quite attracted to the Samsung thing but I don't want to get something that's just gonna be a bog standard monitor.

I reckon it's gonna be worth it to get something that may be more expensive but has a bit more quality to it for design purposes.

I'll check the Dell thing out, but if anyone else has any suggestions, please let me know!



PS. Thanks Sam, I'll check those out.
whats your budget?
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:13   #7 (permalink)
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Probably fine to go up to about £400, perhaps even £500. It'll be worth it in the long run.
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:19   #8 (permalink)
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:25   #9 (permalink)
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Probably fine to go up to about £400, perhaps even £500. It'll be worth it in the long run.
then stay away from every 22'' display. they ALL suck.

I guess you'll be more than happy with a NEC 20WGX2 - costs under £350. or were you looking for something bigger?
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Old 12-08-2007, 14:00   #10 (permalink)
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Apple Cinema Displays are very good. A lot of people consider them overpriced (and they are a little), however they really deliver. Given their pedigree in the design industry, Apple couldn't afford to deliver a substandard monitor (there was a fault on some of the early models to ship, but that's been fixed).

They use the same LCD basic panels as the Dell Widescreens, but the components they use are of higher quality, and they've beaten the Dell in every review I've seen.

The main downside for you (assuming you're a PC user) is that you don't get the same level of control or configuration when you hook one up to a PC as you do with a Mac. I've had a 23" Cinema Display for about 6 months and it's been a revelation.
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Old 14-08-2007, 11:16   #11 (permalink)
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Actually, dell buys moniters from Samsung and BenQ and put their own logo on it.
Proof: www dot tomshardware dot com/forum/186560-33-makes-dell-monitors

Look up the SAMSUNG 22" 226BW. It's about $319 at newegg.
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Old 14-08-2007, 12:09   #12 (permalink)
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They use the same LCD basic panels as the Dell Widescreens, but the components they use are of higher quality, and they've beaten the Dell in every review I've seen.

I´ve heard the exact opposite The panels are identical but the magic happens in the firmware (Dell has had lots of problems with it). I have the 2407WFP revision 5 and I can notice slight banding when I really concentrate but it might be my imagination too.

Now the HC versions are almost or already out too! Fuck yeah!!

Basically Apple Cinema displays in default are less suitable for print design colour wise then Dell´s but I guess after some thorough calibration they are both just fine But you have to consider that your nice vivid colours will turn to shit after
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Old 14-08-2007, 13:15   #13 (permalink)
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Actually, dell buys moniters from Samsung and BenQ and put their own logo on it.
Proof: www dot tomshardware dot com/forum/186560-33-makes-dell-monitors

Look up the SAMSUNG 22" 226BW. It's about $319 at newegg.
no

dell buys panels from samsung...might buy some other parts too. the software is different.

and that samsung is absolute sh*t for design..
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Old 14-08-2007, 14:49   #14 (permalink)
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dell buys panels from samsung...might buy some other parts too. the software is different.
I might have misread that.

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and that samsung is absolute sh*t for design..

Does that really matter? As long as the screen itself is good, why would the design matter? I mean you're going to be looking at the screen, not the design of the moniter.
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Old 14-08-2007, 15:41   #15 (permalink)
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He means shit for use in designing, not the design of the monitor itself.
That's not going to be it's only use, but I do want to use it for that.
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Old 14-08-2007, 16:29   #16 (permalink)
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He means shit for use in designing, not the design of the monitor itself.
That's not going to be it's only use, but I do want to use it for that.
yup
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Old 14-08-2007, 18:13   #17 (permalink)
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The main thing you need to worry about being a designer is the panel, there are TN panels which only show 6bit colour aka 16.2million colours, or the Dell 20" and 24" widescreens which are S-IPS which are true 16.7million colours and have good viewing angles compared to TN panels (of which all the 22" panels are amongst the cheaper other ones.)

I'd say go for the 20" for ~£250 or if you've got the cash go for the 24" monitor. The Dell 2407WFP is £411 on overclockers.co.uk, the following link should help too

TFT Central - TFT and LCD Monitor Information, Reviews, Guides and News
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Old 14-08-2007, 18:17   #18 (permalink)
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The main thing you need to worry about being a designer is the panel, there are TN panels which only show 6bit colour aka 16.2million colours, or the Dell 20" and 24" widescreens which are S-IPS which are true 16.7million colours and have good viewing angles compared to TN panels (of which all the 22" panels are amongst the cheaper other ones.)

I'd say go for the 20" for ~£250 or if you've got the cash go for the 24" monitor. The Dell 2407WFP is £411 on overclockers.co.uk, the following link should help too

TFT Central - TFT and LCD Monitor Information, Reviews, Guides and News
well...they were in the beginning. then they started being made with S-PVA panels. bastards eh?
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Old 15-08-2007, 04:33   #19 (permalink)
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At the moment I'm torn between two that have been suggested.
The NEC 20WGX2 and the Dell 2407WFP both look great.
Fair enough, the Dell's £60 more, but it seems to have much more going for it.
Reviews for the NEC say that it's colours are fantastic though, how do they compare to the Dell? I'd assume better, but you should never assume anything.
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Old 15-08-2007, 05:17   #20 (permalink)
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I can tell you that I love my 2407WFP. If you have any chance to order it already or wait just a bit get yourself a brand new HC version - it should cost the same and oh boy, the colour range is so much larger!
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