[Mr Fred]

how do i put os x on g4 or do i need to - to run safari etc

[andrewparker]

You need OS X to run Safari - full stop.

Other than that all you need is the OS X disks......

Is this what you meant?

[NorthwindHost]

All you need are the factory installation discs they provided you with and just do a full restore.

[Mr Fred]

yes and no

can you run safari on os9

also what about jaguar, panther etc - very confused

i want best os for mac that allows or these new browsers for testing

[greenfruit]

safari wont run in OS9.

Jaguar is OSX 10.2, Panther is OSX 10.3 but wont be out till the end of the year.

is that ok?

[Mr Fred]

if i put jaguar on, can i update easily enough to panther come end of year

[greenfruit]

yes.

[Mr Fred]

well what i pleasant bunch the mac users are. fuck me its like blood out of a stone

[andrewparker]

Originally posted by andrewparker
You need OS X to run Safari - full stop.

Originally posted by japanmik
can you run safari on os9

Did that not answer your question?

[Mr Fred]

easy tiger

i thought if i got onto macs everyone would shower me with advice and praise

big learning curve coming up.

but to someone of my calibre should be rather easy

[andrewparker]

Originally posted by japanmik
big learning curve coming up.

Bullshit my friend - it's a piece of piss!

Not sure about London - rather daunted by the prospect to be honest.....

[Mr Fred]

what apache, IIS, php - isn't it harder to configure than pc

oh and oh bugger have to use apps like flatyper - i like pc's because joey deacon would feel like stephen hawkins

apples always seem daunting - just beacuse cant bloody find anything

[dan]

Ahhh, we'll be a happy friendly bunch when you get to the specifics of it all, it's just there isn't much to say about installing the OS, unless your thinking about partitioning drives etc.

Oh yeah, If you get Jaguar (OSx 10.2) and use it straight out of the box it may not be the newest version (depending how old your copy is) it's been updated fairly frequently and is now on 10.2.6. Just let the software update run, or pop over to Apple Support to download the latest versions.

Not sure if they're still doing it but not so long ago you could get disks of OS 9.2 for free if you'd upgraded to OS X (well £14.99).

On the subject of OS 9. Will you be running any OS 9 only applications on your mac? If you want to run them through classic on OS X, you'll have to install a version of OS 9 on your computer somewhere (hense the above mention). I use it on a seperate partition but that isn't nessacery so long as it's there somewhere.

I found the Apple forums, knowledge base and BBS to be a great help on a lot of OS issues.

Was that more like what you were after or did I go too far ?

[andrewparker]

Apache is pre-installed with OS X and is very, very easy to configure. IIS doesn't exist for Mac OS and was always a pain on Windows anyway.

Not being able to find things is a good thing - you really don't need to touch anything.....

I made the switch 12 months ago and my system hasn't crashed, nor have I had a problem in all that time. I've also only shut it down twice.....

[dan]

Do you mean the Apache that ships with OS X?

If you want to enable it go to System Preferences / Sharing and select Personal Web Sharing and bingo you turned on the Apache system.

If you want to enable php etc you will need to log in as the root User (disabled on OS X) you can enable root using the Terminal shell utility, or the net info manager utility (both found in the Utilities folder within the Applications folder). To use Net Info Manager, select security/authenticate then enter your password. Then select security/enable root set the passwords etc and there you have it. Now log off log back in and you can addminister your appache files as standard, removeing #'s etc to enable the php module (it's already instaled by default). Couldn't be easier

It's all very easy to pick up and there's lots of handy little Utilities etc to help you out, if you get to concerned you can always hit the Terminal...

Hmm, I don't know what flatyper is.

[Mr Fred]

dan - speak in english god damn it
andreww - apache installed - thats great

i know who to bug for advice

all our apps are os9 back ( if you know what i mean) - so to run on os x i need to partition. i see

thats a bugger beacuse i only want it to run all the browsers on. just a test / proto machine

still do all design / dev on pc

thanks

[dan]

Eek, sorry about that.

If you want to use your old OS 9 Applications through OS X you would use the Classic mode within OS X. This mode effectively runs both OS's simultaineously in a similar way to when you run a PC emulator on the mac.

You don't need to partition your drive to use this mode, simply have a version of OS 9 instaled somewhere on your hard drive (I partitioned my drive because my switch over to OS X was slow and that way it was easy to boot directly from OS 9 and keep everything seperate + I went through a bit of a partitioning phase)

You can set Classic to launch on start up or launch it from the systems preferences folder whenever you like. It will also start if you try to open an OS 9 App.

Sorry if I confused you, but it'll all make sense once you try it out the point is that it really is a piece of piss.

[greenfruit]

yep, no need to partition.

http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/ct/49

is great for OSX apache info

[Mr Fred]

cheers guys

[Mr Fred]

g4 it just come - plugged in cable on interent - fast as fuck its only dual processor 500mhz -