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keystone · 16-09-2006, 00:36

Ok guys i am getting ready to by a PC. Which is better a alienware pc or a Dell xps.

Also...let me know how you would configure it

Red Cap · 16-09-2006, 02:18

did'nt dell buy alienware? probably very similar - both overpriced. Do a little bit of research and make youre own, you'll get more bang for your buck.

Dusteh · 16-09-2006, 05:45

I would say IBM or, as I'm bias - a top of the range Acer (their high end gear doesn't suffer the same questionable build quality as the budget stuff). I'm dubious about Dell after we had a couple of their desktops which were quite frankly shite.

fpad77 · 16-09-2006, 05:54

I'm an Alienware user, so I'd reccomend it. But the Dell XPS vs Alienware range is long running thing about which is best, as far as i could gather it depends what you do because they both have their qualities. Both of them really are for if you want sheer power, otherwise as said above, it probably cheaper to build your own.
Just then you can't say 'I own an alienware' heh.

I'm on a Area 51M 7700--- laptop, though if I buy again I'd get a desktop next time, I just needed it for its portability.

2Dfruit · 16-09-2006, 06:07

don't buy either. Go to http://www.overclockers.co.uk and make your own. it's really easy, and you get way better value for your money.

p.s get a intel core 2 duo processor. they are the shit.

keystone · 16-09-2006, 08:00

i need a laptop....does that change you opinion?

Transmogrify · 16-09-2006, 08:35

get a macbook pro if you want a laptop.

pgo · 16-09-2006, 11:17

What's the point of buying a laptop that's barely portable?

Those XPS things are not only ugly as sin, but heavy as hell, too. If you want a system to play games, build a desktop. It'll be cheaper and better than anything you can buy from Dell.

Transmogrify · 16-09-2006, 11:23

According to most of the reviews of the MacBook Pro, it's performance with Windows ranks up there with the best so even if you only need windows, it could well be worth considering and then you've got the OS X option should you ever need it.

Alexanda · 16-09-2006, 13:48

i got a 15" macbook pro, it burns your bollocks but it's a great machine

keystone · 16-09-2006, 13:51

i want the laptop for 2 reasons - - - Mobility and Website Design. I need it to be very fast b/c I have about 8 windows open at 1 time as well as photoshop which burns alot of memory.

What si the difference between these new processors? core duo / intel p4 / amd?

Which is better?

keystone · 16-09-2006, 14:20

ok which is a better deal....

Alienware: $3574
1] Area-51® m7700
Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 660 Desktop Processor w/ HT Technology 3.6GHz 800MHz FSB 2MB
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 with Service Pack 2 - None
Display: 17" WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 LCD with Built-in Camera - Xeno Grey
Motherboard: Intel® 915P PCI-Express Chipset
Memory: 3GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 533MHz - 2 x 512MB / 2 x 1024MB
Hard Drive: Extreme Performance (RAID 0) - 120GB (60GB x 2) ATA/100 5,400 RPM
Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW / 24X CD-RW Combo w/Software
Video/Graphics Card: 256MB NVidia® GeForce™ Go 6800
Sound Card: Intel® 7.1 High-Definition Audio
Wireless Network Card: Internal 802.11b/g WiFi Card
Communications: Integrated 10/1000Mb Gigabit Ethernet & 56K V.92 Modem
Mouse: Logitech® V270 Bluetooth™ Optical Mouse - Silver
Bluetooth: Bluetooth™ USB Adapter
Primary Battery: Alienware® m7700 12-cell Lithium-Ion Smart Battery Pack
Power: Vehicle AC Adapter - Belkin® AC Anywhere 300W Vehicle Outlet Adapter
Floppy Drive: USB Floppy Drive
Warranty: 2-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support w/ Onsite Service
AlienRespawn: Alienware® Respawn Recovery Kit
Alienware Exclusive Offers: 10% off your next EB Games online purchase
Security and Utility Software: Norton™ AntiVirus™ 2006
Productivity Software: Microsoft® Office 2003 Basic
Free Alienware Shirt: Free Alienware® T-Shirt - White
Desktop Enhancements: Exclusive AlienGUIse Theme Manager

DELL:$3400
XPS M1710
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7600 (2.33GHz/667MHz/4MB)
Operating System Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
Memory 2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHZ, 2 DIMM
Video Card 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7900 GS
Hard Drive 100GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
Network Card and Modem Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card and Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
Combo or DVD+RW Drive 8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
Sound Options Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ HD Software Edition
Wireless Networking Cards Wireless Card Only: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945a/g
Office Software (not included in Windows XP) Microsoft Office Basic - Includes Word, Excel, and Outlook email
Anti-Virus/Security Suite (Pre-installed) PC-cillin Internet Security: AntiVirus, Firewall, Spyware removal 15-months
Primary Battery 80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Hardware Warranty 2Yr Ltd Warranty, 2Yr At-Home Service, and 2Yr HW Warranty Support
XPS Specialized Support Inspiron XPS, Specialized Support
Dial-Up Internet Access No ISP requested
Miscellaneous Award Winning Service, Support
Future Operating Systems Windows Vista™ Capable
Dell Digital Entertainment No preinstalled software
Processor Branding Intel Centrino Core Duo Processor

pgo · 16-09-2006, 19:01

For web design and mobility, you won't need to spend $3500. That's insane. Look in the neighborhood of $1200-2000. Plus these Alienware and Dell things suck so much juice that you can't expect to leave them on battery power for any serious amount of time - which reduces mobility as much as their insane weight and size. What are they like 10-12 pounds or so?

If you're out for gaming, buy a desktop because you'll get better performance for half the price. And with the money you didn't spend on the top of the line giant laptop, you can buy a cheap laptop for mobility and web design.

For $3500 you can buy a desktop for gaming and a laptop for mobility. Why waste so much money on a single computer?

Transmogrify · 17-09-2006, 05:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by keystone

i want the laptop for 2 reasons - - - Mobility and Website Design. I need it to be very fast b/c I have about 8 windows open at 1 time as well as photoshop which burns alot of memory.

What si the difference between these new processors? core duo / intel p4 / amd?

Which is better?

What? You're going to spend over 3 grand on a laptop so you can have about 8 windows, including photoshop open? I've got a 700 quid 1.5Ghz apple laptop. Currently I have open -

Photoshop, Camino, Mail, iTerm, SQLite DB Browser, MSN Messenger, NewsFire, Textmate, MacIrssi plus running in the background I have Apache and Apache 2, SVN Server. You don't need to spend 3000+ on a laptop to have photoshop plus 7 other windows open. But hey, do what you want to. Your money at the end of the day.

I'd get the Alienware - you get a free tshirt with that one

keystone · 17-09-2006, 09:05

keystone · 17-09-2006, 09:06

thats why i asked....give me your opinions......keep them coming....this is helping me...

Red Cap · 18-09-2006, 02:06

fancy a workout?
http://www.dell.com/content/products...en&s=dhs&cs=19

Dusteh · 18-09-2006, 03:55

bollocks to all that... if all you honestly want to do is run photoshop and textpad/dreamweaver - go to www.ebuyer.com and get something for £500 - or whatever the american equivalent of ebuyer is.

Then you can spend the rest of the money on useful stuff. Like the software, or a Wacom.

willywonka · 18-09-2006, 05:35

http://laptopmag.com/Features/Attack...h-Notebook.htm

Transmogrify · 18-09-2006, 06:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Cap

fancy a workout?
http://www.dell.com/content/products...en&s=dhs&cs=19

Problem with that dell is it looks quite smart and tech but it's running windows so it'll never be a very good media centre.

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keystone Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 18	alienware or dell Ok guys i am getting ready to by a PC. Which is better a alienware pc or a Dell xps. Also...let me know how you would configure it

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Red Cap senior member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: auckland, nz Posts: 274	did'nt dell buy alienware? probably very similar - both overpriced. Do a little bit of research and make youre own, you'll get more bang for your buck.

16-09-2006, 05:45	#3 (permalink)
Dusteh Sir digby chicken caesar Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4,887	I would say IBM or, as I'm bias - a top of the range Acer (their high end gear doesn't suffer the same questionable build quality as the budget stuff). I'm dubious about Dell after we had a couple of their desktops which were quite frankly shite.

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fpad77 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK, Sunderland Posts: 72	I'm an Alienware user, so I'd reccomend it. But the Dell XPS vs Alienware range is long running thing about which is best, as far as i could gather it depends what you do because they both have their qualities. Both of them really are for if you want sheer power, otherwise as said above, it probably cheaper to build your own. Just then you can't say 'I own an alienware' heh. I'm on a Area 51M 7700--- laptop, though if I buy again I'd get a desktop next time, I just needed it for its portability.

16-09-2006, 06:07	#5 (permalink)
2Dfruit Biscuit Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 985	don't buy either. Go to http://www.overclockers.co.uk and make your own. it's really easy, and you get way better value for your money. p.s get a intel core 2 duo processor. they are the shit.

16-09-2006, 08:00	#6 (permalink)
keystone Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 18	i need a laptop....does that change you opinion?

16-09-2006, 08:35	#7 (permalink)
Transmogrify Rough Creep Arse™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,888	get a macbook pro if you want a laptop.

16-09-2006, 11:17	#8 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	What's the point of buying a laptop that's barely portable? Those XPS things are not only ugly as sin, but heavy as hell, too. If you want a system to play games, build a desktop. It'll be cheaper and better than anything you can buy from Dell.

16-09-2006, 11:23	#9 (permalink)
Transmogrify Rough Creep Arse™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,888	According to most of the reviews of the MacBook Pro, it's performance with Windows ranks up there with the best so even if you only need windows, it could well be worth considering and then you've got the OS X option should you ever need it.

16-09-2006, 13:51	#11 (permalink)
keystone Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 18	i want the laptop for 2 reasons - - - Mobility and Website Design. I need it to be very fast b/c I have about 8 windows open at 1 time as well as photoshop which burns alot of memory. What si the difference between these new processors? core duo / intel p4 / amd? Which is better?

16-09-2006, 14:20	#12 (permalink)
keystone Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 18	ok which is a better deal.... Alienware: $3574 1] Area-51® m7700 Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 660 Desktop Processor w/ HT Technology 3.6GHz 800MHz FSB 2MB Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 with Service Pack 2 - None Display: 17" WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 LCD with Built-in Camera - Xeno Grey Motherboard: Intel® 915P PCI-Express Chipset Memory: 3GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 533MHz - 2 x 512MB / 2 x 1024MB Hard Drive: Extreme Performance (RAID 0) - 120GB (60GB x 2) ATA/100 5,400 RPM Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW / 24X CD-RW Combo w/Software Video/Graphics Card: 256MB NVidia® GeForce™ Go 6800 Sound Card: Intel® 7.1 High-Definition Audio Wireless Network Card: Internal 802.11b/g WiFi Card Communications: Integrated 10/1000Mb Gigabit Ethernet & 56K V.92 Modem Mouse: Logitech® V270 Bluetooth™ Optical Mouse - Silver Bluetooth: Bluetooth™ USB Adapter Primary Battery: Alienware® m7700 12-cell Lithium-Ion Smart Battery Pack Power: Vehicle AC Adapter - Belkin® AC Anywhere 300W Vehicle Outlet Adapter Floppy Drive: USB Floppy Drive Warranty: 2-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support w/ Onsite Service AlienRespawn: Alienware® Respawn Recovery Kit Alienware Exclusive Offers: 10% off your next EB Games online purchase Security and Utility Software: Norton™ AntiVirus™ 2006 Productivity Software: Microsoft® Office 2003 Basic Free Alienware Shirt: Free Alienware® T-Shirt - White Desktop Enhancements: Exclusive AlienGUIse Theme Manager DELL:$3400 XPS M1710 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7600 (2.33GHz/667MHz/4MB) Operating System Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™ Memory 2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHZ, 2 DIMM Video Card 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7900 GS Hard Drive 100GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive Network Card and Modem Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card and Modem Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0 Combo or DVD+RW Drive 8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability Sound Options Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ HD Software Edition Wireless Networking Cards Wireless Card Only: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945a/g Office Software (not included in Windows XP) Microsoft Office Basic - Includes Word, Excel, and Outlook email Anti-Virus/Security Suite (Pre-installed) PC-cillin Internet Security: AntiVirus, Firewall, Spyware removal 15-months Primary Battery 80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery Hardware Warranty 2Yr Ltd Warranty, 2Yr At-Home Service, and 2Yr HW Warranty Support XPS Specialized Support Inspiron XPS, Specialized Support Dial-Up Internet Access No ISP requested Miscellaneous Award Winning Service, Support Future Operating Systems Windows Vista™ Capable Dell Digital Entertainment No preinstalled software Processor Branding Intel Centrino Core Duo Processor

16-09-2006, 19:01	#13 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	For web design and mobility, you won't need to spend $3500. That's insane. Look in the neighborhood of $1200-2000. Plus these Alienware and Dell things suck so much juice that you can't expect to leave them on battery power for any serious amount of time - which reduces mobility as much as their insane weight and size. What are they like 10-12 pounds or so? If you're out for gaming, buy a desktop because you'll get better performance for half the price. And with the money you didn't spend on the top of the line giant laptop, you can buy a cheap laptop for mobility and web design. For $3500 you can buy a desktop for gaming and a laptop for mobility. Why waste so much money on a single computer?

17-09-2006, 09:06	#16 (permalink)
keystone Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 18	thats why i asked....give me your opinions......keep them coming....this is helping me...

18-09-2006, 02:06	#17 (permalink)
Red Cap senior member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: auckland, nz Posts: 274	fancy a workout? http://www.dell.com/content/products...en&s=dhs&cs=19

18-09-2006, 03:55	#18 (permalink)
Dusteh Sir digby chicken caesar Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4,887	bollocks to all that... if all you honestly want to do is run photoshop and textpad/dreamweaver - go to www.ebuyer.com and get something for £500 - or whatever the american equivalent of ebuyer is. Then you can spend the rest of the money on useful stuff. Like the software, or a Wacom.

18-09-2006, 05:35	#19 (permalink)
willywonka Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 834	http://laptopmag.com/Features/Attack...h-Notebook.htm

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