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tomson · 01-05-2003, 11:06

http://www.stratocucine.com/

andrewparker · 01-05-2003, 11:25

Well, it had me mesmerized for 20 minutes and that's no mean feat!

Have you checked the agency who did it? Very nice!

lucidcreations · 01-05-2003, 11:28

VERY F'ING NICE.

I would love to work with clean looking products like that. gonna add that to me bookmarks. cheers

oli · 01-05-2003, 11:43

very nice indeed , how did you come across the site ?

tomson · 01-05-2003, 11:49

I think it was mentioned on k10k a few weeks ago, but i've know of group94 for a while.

Prole · 01-05-2003, 15:09

really lucid navigation system and *shock* not grey & orange! looked great and sound wasn't too bad either.

kept my attention for a good 10 minutes - even on my 14.4k connection

And · 01-05-2003, 16:04

[quote:93dc369ab4="Prole"]really lucid navigation system and *shock* not grey & orange!
[/quote:93dc369ab4]

What's wrong with grey and orange? I like grey and orange, especially with a bit of dark green

lucidcreations · 02-05-2003, 04:31

Eh? What you on about I never mentioned nav nor grey and orange......I'm confused..........

All I said was I liked the site and would love to work with cleaning looking products like that. Meaning they look very smart and modern with well defined edges and add to the site design itself. Someitmes no matter how good ur design skills are if the product or corp colours/logo are really horrible it can really throw your mind out.

mz-elliot · 02-05-2003, 09:41

Coolies - Love the flash - despise the products!

andrewparker · 02-05-2003, 10:23

[quote:c41a613d78="mz-elliot"]Coolies - Love the flash - despise the products!

[/quote:c41a613d78]

What?! I think their products are amazing! Simply sublime!

tomson · 02-05-2003, 10:34

well f'kin said mate - they are bloody amazing!

lucidcreations · 02-05-2003, 10:54

yeah i wonder how they get those little green X's to come out of the oven like that in real life......

lucidcreations · 02-05-2003, 10:55

i love that all white room in the mill.

mz-elliot · 02-05-2003, 11:25

[quote:0fa89e3220="andrewparker"]What?! I think their products are amazing! Simply sublime![/quote:0fa89e3220]
Meh... I hate all that modern minimalistic crap... it's all so bare and sterile. Give me good old chunky solid wood furnishings and a big gas stove

mz-elliot · 02-05-2003, 11:28

[quote:aa57c9f0b7="lucidcreations"]i love that all white room in the mill.[/quote:aa57c9f0b7]
Lol - I feel like I'm going to get blasted for this - but how could you possibly live in a place that looks like a cement bunker on the outside and a mental ward on the inside?

I love the view though, all I need is a wooden shack and a nice pot-belly heater

tomson · 02-05-2003, 11:33

No ones asking you to live there - its just about having an appreciation of aesthetics, surely you can see that? A nicely designed product is still a nicely designed product whether it appeals to you or not.

mz-elliot · 02-05-2003, 11:46

[quote:9767b41917="tomson"]No ones asking you to live there - its just about having an appreciation of aesthetics, surely you can see that? A nicely designed product is still a nicely designed product whether it appeals to you or not.[/quote:9767b41917]
Heh - yes I'm glad nobody is asking me to live there. You said their products are simply amazing - I said I didn't like them. Thus I wouldn't be able to appreciate them as much as you. I haven't used them so I can't rate on functionality.

Aesthetically (assuming we're both talking about the same sort of aesthetics) - I hate them; you like them. That's that

tomson · 02-05-2003, 11:53

[quote:38845e817b]Thus I wouldn't be able to appreciate them as much as you.[/quote:38845e817b]

But surely you can appreciate things without liking them? If you only appreciate things you like then you're gonna go through life with a pretty blinkered point of view.

Are you a designer?

mz-elliot · 02-05-2003, 12:19

Allow me to rephrase. I don't like the products - I wouldn't use them. I wouldn't appreciate them very much as they'd make the rest of my kitchen/house look ugly and I'd feel pretty nauseous if I were to have them. In this sense, I'm thinking as a consumer of a product and of the decisions I'd make upon seeing those images.

I'm a designer, but I am also student of philosophy - and I try to use both skills practically. When I appraise a design I don't just look at the physical, but how it will interact with the environment and those using/viewing it, and I make judgements accordingly. I appreciate that there's artistic skill involved in designing these products - quite a lot of skill in fact, I just don't care too much for the products themselves for other reasons. So to answer your question, yes I can appreciate what goes into the production of both the product and the website and the artistic validity of each, yet I like one of the final products, but not the other.

*inhale*

tomson · 02-05-2003, 12:38

[quote:73b236d934] I appreciate that there's artistic skill involved in designing these products - quite a lot of skill in fact, I just don't care too much for the products themselves for other reasons. [/quote:73b236d934]

What reasons are those?

I'm not trying to cause an argument and say 'you must like these products because blah blah..' i'm just trying to understand why you have such a repulsion to them as in my line of work its very useful (and interesting) to find out why people react the way they do. I have extensive usibility testing done on sites I design and always learn something from each session, its a real eye opener.

01-05-2003, 11:06	#1 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	Damn nice site http://www.stratocucine.com/

01-05-2003, 11:25	#2 (permalink)
andrewparker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 991	Well, it had me mesmerized for 20 minutes and that's no mean feat! Have you checked the agency who did it? Very nice! __________________ Andrew Parker --------------------- (Apple PowerBook G4 1.67GHz / 1Gb RAM / OS X / Safari )

01-05-2003, 11:28	#3 (permalink)
lucidcreations Part of the 3 out of 4 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: cheshire Posts: 2,081	VERY F'ING NICE. I would love to work with clean looking products like that. gonna add that to me bookmarks. cheers __________________ Jase

01-05-2003, 11:43	#4 (permalink)
oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,508	very nice indeed , how did you come across the site ? __________________ ..................

01-05-2003, 15:09	#6 (permalink)
Prole Right turn, Clyde Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 377	really lucid navigation system and shock not grey & orange! looked great and sound wasn't too bad either. kept my attention for a good 10 minutes - even on my 14.4k connection __________________ everything was great til i got here

01-05-2003, 11:49	#5 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	I think it was mentioned on k10k a few weeks ago, but i've know of group94 for a while.

01-05-2003, 16:04	#7 (permalink)
And Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 103	[quote:93dc369ab4="Prole"]really lucid navigation system and shock not grey & orange! [/quote:93dc369ab4] What's wrong with grey and orange? I like grey and orange, especially with a bit of dark green

02-05-2003, 04:31	#8 (permalink)
lucidcreations Part of the 3 out of 4 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: cheshire Posts: 2,081	Eh? What you on about I never mentioned nav nor grey and orange......I'm confused.......... All I said was I liked the site and would love to work with cleaning looking products like that. Meaning they look very smart and modern with well defined edges and add to the site design itself. Someitmes no matter how good ur design skills are if the product or corp colours/logo are really horrible it can really throw your mind out. __________________ Jase

02-05-2003, 09:41	#9 (permalink)
mz-elliot Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 42	Coolies - Love the flash - despise the products!

02-05-2003, 10:23	#10 (permalink)
andrewparker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 991	[quote:c41a613d78="mz-elliot"]Coolies - Love the flash - despise the products! [/quote:c41a613d78] What?! I think their products are amazing! Simply sublime! __________________ Andrew Parker --------------------- (Apple PowerBook G4 1.67GHz / 1Gb RAM / OS X / Safari )

02-05-2003, 10:34	#11 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	well f'kin said mate - they are bloody amazing!

02-05-2003, 10:54	#12 (permalink)
lucidcreations Part of the 3 out of 4 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: cheshire Posts: 2,081	yeah i wonder how they get those little green X's to come out of the oven like that in real life...... __________________ Jase

02-05-2003, 10:55	#13 (permalink)
lucidcreations Part of the 3 out of 4 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: cheshire Posts: 2,081	i love that all white room in the mill. __________________ Jase

02-05-2003, 11:25	#14 (permalink)
mz-elliot Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 42	[quote:0fa89e3220="andrewparker"]What?! I think their products are amazing! Simply sublime![/quote:0fa89e3220] Meh... I hate all that modern minimalistic crap... it's all so bare and sterile. Give me good old chunky solid wood furnishings and a big gas stove

02-05-2003, 11:28	#15 (permalink)
mz-elliot Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 42	[quote:aa57c9f0b7="lucidcreations"]i love that all white room in the mill.[/quote:aa57c9f0b7] Lol - I feel like I'm going to get blasted for this - but how could you possibly live in a place that looks like a cement bunker on the outside and a mental ward on the inside? I love the view though, all I need is a wooden shack and a nice pot-belly heater

02-05-2003, 11:33	#16 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	No ones asking you to live there - its just about having an appreciation of aesthetics, surely you can see that? A nicely designed product is still a nicely designed product whether it appeals to you or not.

02-05-2003, 11:46	#17 (permalink)
mz-elliot Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 42	[quote:9767b41917="tomson"]No ones asking you to live there - its just about having an appreciation of aesthetics, surely you can see that? A nicely designed product is still a nicely designed product whether it appeals to you or not.[/quote:9767b41917] Heh - yes I'm glad nobody is asking me to live there. You said their products are simply amazing - I said I didn't like them. Thus I wouldn't be able to appreciate them as much as you. I haven't used them so I can't rate on functionality. Aesthetically (assuming we're both talking about the same sort of aesthetics) - I hate them; you like them. That's that

02-05-2003, 11:53	#18 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	[quote:38845e817b]Thus I wouldn't be able to appreciate them as much as you.[/quote:38845e817b] But surely you can appreciate things without liking them? If you only appreciate things you like then you're gonna go through life with a pretty blinkered point of view. Are you a designer?

02-05-2003, 12:19	#19 (permalink)
mz-elliot Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 42	warning! bloated post... Allow me to rephrase. I don't like the products - I wouldn't use them. I wouldn't appreciate them very much as they'd make the rest of my kitchen/house look ugly and I'd feel pretty nauseous if I were to have them. In this sense, I'm thinking as a consumer of a product and of the decisions I'd make upon seeing those images. I'm a designer, but I am also student of philosophy - and I try to use both skills practically. When I appraise a design I don't just look at the physical, but how it will interact with the environment and those using/viewing it, and I make judgements accordingly. I appreciate that there's artistic skill involved in designing these products - quite a lot of skill in fact, I just don't care too much for the products themselves for other reasons. So to answer your question, yes I can appreciate what goes into the production of both the product and the website and the artistic validity of each, yet I like one of the final products, but not the other. inhale

02-05-2003, 12:38	#20 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	[quote:73b236d934] I appreciate that there's artistic skill involved in designing these products - quite a lot of skill in fact, I just don't care too much for the products themselves for other reasons. [/quote:73b236d934] What reasons are those? I'm not trying to cause an argument and say 'you must like these products because blah blah..' i'm just trying to understand why you have such a repulsion to them as in my line of work its very useful (and interesting) to find out why people react the way they do. I have extensive usibility testing done on sites I design and always learn something from each session, its a real eye opener.

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