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pat · 09-10-2005, 12:26

Superb -

http://www.druh.co.uk/medialounge/exhibitions.html

sean_r · 11-10-2005, 05:44

That is brilliant!!! I actually tried to move the Scrollbar !!!

pgo · 11-10-2005, 05:46

Brilliant isn't the word I'd use for it, personally. Maybe "kind of funny" or "cute" or "somewhat clever."

I reserve brilliant for things that are...well...brilliant.

pat · 11-10-2005, 12:14

D'ya reserve your knob for things that are...well...male?

aspiramedia · 11-10-2005, 12:19

touche!

oh the wit!

pgo · 12-10-2005, 02:43

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Originally Posted by aspiramedia

touche!

oh the wit!

Indeed, once again proving his age with a gay joke.

mark · 12-10-2005, 03:05

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Originally Posted by pgo

Indeed, once again proving his age with a gay joke.

Don't knock 'em.

It's fashionable in some circles to make constant reference about percieved gayness. Not in this forum you understand, but others leave nothing to the imagination.

jase1000 · 12-10-2005, 05:49

Great concept that, so simple and looks well executed from the pics. Nice find Pat.

seen.to · 12-10-2005, 07:49

Pfft. Sideways scrollbar.

Transmogrify · 12-10-2005, 07:55

I don't think it's brilliant but I think it's quite inspired. I think this comment...

"Jan Robert's work investigates the point where the mind starts to confuse what is reality and what is illusion, with particular focus on the physical experience of the audience."

...is bullshit. You know very well you're not within a windows environment. All the same, I'm quite jealous - I want some human sized scrollbars for my bedroom. I might make some.

jase1000 · 12-10-2005, 08:07

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Originally Posted by Transmogrify

"Jan Robert's work investigates the point where the mind starts to confuse what is reality and what is illusion, with particular focus on the physical experience of the audience."

I don't know if I'd say it's bullshit. To me it's like when you go fuck something up in real life and in the back of your mind you're thinking 'aargh... CTRL-Z'.

sub · 12-10-2005, 08:28

Or Apple-Z

Transmogrify · 12-10-2005, 08:45

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Originally Posted by jase1000

I don't know if I'd say it's bullshit. To me it's like when you go fuck something up in real life and in the back of your mind you're thinking 'aargh... CTRL-Z'.

If someone says something amusing, do you think or even worse say, "LOL"?

jase1000 · 12-10-2005, 08:53

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Originally Posted by Transmogrify

If someone says something amusing, do you think or even worse say, "LOL"?

lol

pgo · 12-10-2005, 09:24

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Originally Posted by Transmogrify

"Jan Robert's work investigates the point where the mind starts to confuse what is reality and what is illusion, with particular focus on the physical experience of the audience."

I don't think that's bullshit.

It's just been done before. A million times over. Now, he's doing it with something contemporary - elements of the Windows interface (despite what the site says, he's not doing anything having to do with the architecture of software - it has to do with the symbolic meaning of GUI elements). I guess people think that means it's "new" or "cutting edge".

In other words, he's reinventing the wheel. He's rehashing tired ideas in a bland and simple manner that doesn't hold your interest for more than a few seconds. Nothing special - and certainly not brilliant. There's nothing to experience with his work, which all features shotty construction with no attention to craft.

There's far more interesting work being done by real artists. Not people in other trades who want the prestige that comes with that title.

jase1000 · 12-10-2005, 09:51

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...which all features shotty construction with no attention to craft.

How are you gauging that from those pics? The construction looks fine to me. Since when was 'craft' an essential in contemporary art anyway?

As for it being a re-hash, it follows the tradition of juxtoposing unrelated objects (in this case realities) to force us to take a step back from our normal viewpoint. What's wrong with that? It's a perfectly valid field to be exploring if you ask me. I can't understand your negativity towards this work, it's more interesting than that pile of white boxes filling up the Tate at the moment.

Transmogrify · 12-10-2005, 10:17

haha I'm definitely not an artist. I see a couple of lengths of wood/cardboard.. whatever it's made from, painted up to look like a scrollbar, not anything that makes me step back from my normal viewpoint or confuses what is reality and what is illusion.

Perhaps I had to be there but I can't read anything into his scrollbars. I'm still going to make some for myself though. And maybe a mouse pointer too.

pgo · 12-10-2005, 10:35

Better than this monumental piece of work? - http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/whiteread/ - no way.

Anyway, I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, I just said it's uninteresting and boring and been done a thousand times. There's no decent explanation for any of his work - except a gimmick. Just look at his site.

Craft is important in everything. If it's poorly executed, it shows a lack of concern and seriousness and, in my opinion, ruins the work. In that sense, I'm talking more about his other works. Most of it looks pretty slapped together.

My negativity is simply due to what I see as something that doesn't hold my interest for more than a few seconds, that's been done a million times (oldest trick the book, if you will), and is nothing more than a gimmick.

jase1000 · 12-10-2005, 10:40

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Originally Posted by pgo

Better than this monumental piece of work? - http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/whiteread/ - no way.

Size and budget isn't everything. The scroll bars are a more interesting concept to me.

pat · 12-10-2005, 11:55

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Indeed, once again proving his age with a gay joke.

haha, knew that'd piss you off. You're so boring.

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11-10-2005, 05:44	#2 (permalink)
sean_r Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,092	That is brilliant!!! I actually tried to move the Scrollbar !!!

11-10-2005, 05:46	#3 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	Brilliant isn't the word I'd use for it, personally. Maybe "kind of funny" or "cute" or "somewhat clever." I reserve brilliant for things that are...well...brilliant.

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aspiramedia Unregistered user Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 312	touche! oh the wit!

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jase1000 turd 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Right on your tit end Posts: 1,163	Great concept that, so simple and looks well executed from the pics. Nice find Pat.

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Transmogrify Rough Creep Arse™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,888	I don't think it's brilliant but I think it's quite inspired. I think this comment... "Jan Robert's work investigates the point where the mind starts to confuse what is reality and what is illusion, with particular focus on the physical experience of the audience." ...is bullshit. You know very well you're not within a windows environment. All the same, I'm quite jealous - I want some human sized scrollbars for my bedroom. I might make some.

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sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 4,859	Or Apple-Z

12-10-2005, 10:17	#17 (permalink)
Transmogrify Rough Creep Arse™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,888	haha I'm definitely not an artist. I see a couple of lengths of wood/cardboard.. whatever it's made from, painted up to look like a scrollbar, not anything that makes me step back from my normal viewpoint or confuses what is reality and what is illusion. Perhaps I had to be there but I can't read anything into his scrollbars. I'm still going to make some for myself though. And maybe a mouse pointer too.

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pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	Better than this monumental piece of work? - http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/whiteread/ - no way. Anyway, I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, I just said it's uninteresting and boring and been done a thousand times. There's no decent explanation for any of his work - except a gimmick. Just look at his site. Craft is important in everything. If it's poorly executed, it shows a lack of concern and seriousness and, in my opinion, ruins the work. In that sense, I'm talking more about his other works. Most of it looks pretty slapped together. My negativity is simply due to what I see as something that doesn't hold my interest for more than a few seconds, that's been done a million times (oldest trick the book, if you will), and is nothing more than a gimmick.

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