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dan · 05-08-2005, 10:56

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Originally Posted by emilpaun

Shitty code reads "shitty designer"

No, Shitty code reads "Shitty Coder". But I take your point.

emil · 05-08-2005, 10:59

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Originally Posted by dan

No, Shitty code reads "Shitty Coder". But I take your point.

I usually do my own coding and designs.

dan · 05-08-2005, 11:04

So do I, but not all the time and a lot of people don't, depends on the job description.

emil · 05-08-2005, 11:05

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Originally Posted by dan

So do I, but not all the time and a lot of people don't, depends on the job description.

Yeah, I guess you're right.

top_buzz · 05-08-2005, 11:52

My code sucks but I still get plenty of work that my clients seem to like. I am gonna try and get better at coding soon tho, but making things look pretty comes first for me

Stickman · 05-08-2005, 12:23

If you ask me (which you all should

), a true designer/design team wants perfection in all areas of their work. You want to offer a complete solution, not some half finished shit.

Form and function.

Guevara · 05-08-2005, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Stickman

Form and function.

ah, but which comes first?

Stickman · 05-08-2005, 12:26

Neither. They go hand in hand.

Yes mik, like queers.

Guevara · 05-08-2005, 12:28

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Originally Posted by Stickman

Neither. They go hand in hand.

good answer, was expecting to have opened up a whole can of worms with that one

Stickman · 05-08-2005, 12:31

Saw this on netdiver the other day. Sums it up nicely.

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How does writing code relate to being a designer?

To be a better designer means you will have to know your tools and the environment you work in. If you are a print designer, you need to know what happens after you send a project off to the printer. The same goes for Web designers.

The job doesn't finish in photoshop.

dan · 05-08-2005, 12:34

True, but while knowing the theories and practices behind coding is obviously essential, that doesn't mean you can do them yourself, in the same way I'd never expect to go and run a printing press. What it does mean is knowing what you are good at, what you can and can't do and passing the work to the guys who can whenever you reach that point. Which is why mik employs you - yes?

Stickman · 05-08-2005, 13:04

That's exactly what I said - offering a complete solution. If you can't do it, get someone who can.

Stickman · 05-08-2005, 13:09

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Originally Posted by dan

Which is why mik employs you - yes?

Slightly different.

Work with him, not employed by him. And our skills overlap, but together we shall inherit the earth!

Stickman · 05-08-2005, 13:09

...starting with Wales.

oli · 05-08-2005, 13:10

You've got to start somewhere

Mik · 05-08-2005, 13:11

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Originally Posted by Guevara

ah, but which comes first?

your mum.

Mik · 05-08-2005, 13:11

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Originally Posted by Stickman

Slightly different.

Work with him, not employed by him. And our skills overlap, but together we shall inherit the earth!

i own him though.

dan · 05-08-2005, 13:14

He heh, sorry Stick, didn't mean to demote you there. And yes it appears we agree. I shall bow out and beat myself soundly with a stick.

Stickman · 05-08-2005, 13:20

No need.

Guevara · 05-08-2005, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Mr Mik

your mum.

ooo, stepping on dangerous territory there

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05-08-2005, 11:04	#23 (permalink)
dan Iris Folder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: smokey Posts: 2,650	So do I, but not all the time and a lot of people don't, depends on the job description.

05-08-2005, 11:52	#25 (permalink)
top_buzz For your health! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,588	My code sucks but I still get plenty of work that my clients seem to like. I am gonna try and get better at coding soon tho, but making things look pretty comes first for me

05-08-2005, 12:23	#26 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,572	If you ask me (which you all should ), a true designer/design team wants perfection in all areas of their work. You want to offer a complete solution, not some half finished shit. Form and function.

05-08-2005, 12:26	#28 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,572	Neither. They go hand in hand. Yes mik, like queers.

05-08-2005, 12:34	#31 (permalink)
dan Iris Folder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: smokey Posts: 2,650	True, but while knowing the theories and practices behind coding is obviously essential, that doesn't mean you can do them yourself, in the same way I'd never expect to go and run a printing press. What it does mean is knowing what you are good at, what you can and can't do and passing the work to the guys who can whenever you reach that point. Which is why mik employs you - yes?

05-08-2005, 13:04	#32 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,572	That's exactly what I said - offering a complete solution. If you can't do it, get someone who can.

05-08-2005, 13:09	#34 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,572	...starting with Wales.

05-08-2005, 13:10	#35 (permalink)
oli Low flying star™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester, England.™ Posts: 10,018	You've got to start somewhere

05-08-2005, 13:14	#38 (permalink)
dan Iris Folder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: smokey Posts: 2,650	He heh, sorry Stick, didn't mean to demote you there. And yes it appears we agree. I shall bow out and beat myself soundly with a stick.

05-08-2005, 13:20	#39 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,572	No need.

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