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06-05-2008, 16:37
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unusual suspect ™
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: DE, USA
Posts: 2,710
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Assuming you mean the site I posted by 'that fucking thing', I've been working on getting us w3c and section 508 compliant for the last two years and it will probably take two more. It took nearly a year to persuade that we should strive for standardization and accessibility and there is still some resistance when it comes to initial time vs. reward. You should have seen the state the code was in when I first got here. The back end is 8 years old and everything used to come straight from Word. Adding a new back end is not a minor process with over 8,000 articles, each going through a 22-step publication and review process. Throw in around 150 partners that license our content in a hosted solution with us hosting a version of their 'wrapper' along with all the archaic code that entails and the support that is required when they make an update. We offer an XML feed but only a few people actually go for that option. There are several hundred XSLs handling content delivery and licensing which I'm not going to get a chance to touch until we undergo a redesign. The actual article content is finally standards compliant so one small step is complete at least. Oh, and 'that fucking thing' gets over 600k uniques a day, parent's looking for advice about their children's health as well as kids and teens curious about their own health and wellbeing. Note that I said in my original post linking the site that the award was for neither design or coding but instead for content. |
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06-05-2008, 16:51
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i'm done, son
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,262
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But it isn't valid!  Neither is the one we won for. I've found out quickly that working on large projects is a very different game than the midsize sites I was used to: there are half a dozen developers working on the same front-end code. Perfection is hard to come by when deadlines are looming. There are dozens of stakeholders, there's code from external sources you can't control, page elements that you can't control, and so on. |
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06-05-2008, 16:55
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unusual suspect ™
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: DE, USA
Posts: 2,710
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Which annoys me no end But at least now they agree with me (most of the time) that it should be valid. Going to take 2-3 years to get there though (best-case). |
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06-05-2008, 17:33
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Web Developer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,007
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Please don't pretend you give a fuck about standards. Well done on getting the award, but as it was for the content, why are you so happy to take the credit for a job badly done? The articles pages I just looked at had over 200 errors and has been done in tables. If the BBC managed to revamp their site, considering they have millions of pages, I'm pretty sure anyone can. Don't take this rant to heart as it isn't really aimed at you, afterall you can't be soley responsible for this entire site. It is aimed at the retards giving out awards to this kinda failboat code. Web standards is having a hell of a time being adopted by developers, and fuckers like these webby cunts aren't really helping by not taking it into account. This only leads to piss poor browsers, years of waiting to play around with the latest css standard, and having your hourly rate for quality work compared to some WYSIWYG monkey who couldnt give a fuck so long as it works in Internet Explorer. |
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06-05-2008, 17:52
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competitionmaster 2.0
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 1,188
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Congrats. Koloration design & development
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