[eliquid]

if your a designer/design firm, i will give you free hosting for your design site.
Must send sample/samples of work...

hosting includes 5 gigs a month transfer with 500mb space with unlimited mysql/mail/ and all..

pm me only...

you would have to referr your design clients to our hosting in exchange, along with a link back to us on your site.


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[oli]

That sounds great Jason, Ill move this to the general forum as well as I'm sure it will be of interest here.

yep that sound real cool!

[eliquid]

thanks, sorry if i put in wrong place!

[oli]

[quote:de33107554]thanks, sorry if i put in wrong place![/quote:de33107554] - no was the right place but it sounded like a good offer and I didnt want anyone to miss it

[octane]

Is there a minimum amount of clients we'd have to refer or any time limit?

[eliquid]

no not really, but I would like to see about 1 client at least month or two

[octane]

What happens if we don't manage that?

[eliquid]

well.. if you really cant manage a client at least every two months, i would think your design career would go down the drain soon.

I know there are ups and downs, some months you might get 5 people, some months you might not have any.. so I average it out.. if I think your doing good I would still keep you... if you have a dry spill though for more than 4 months I would have to rethink the free hosting to maybe a discount hosting plan

[octane]

I have quite a few clients but I don't necessarily get a new client that requires hosting every month.

Yeah, I might get a few new clients each month and others I just do ongoing work for others every month. But in my experience many clients already have their own hosting or prefer manage it themselves. I think you'll find this is the case in many design studios and they are not "going down the drain".

I don't think this has been thought out properly.

[eliquid]

if they can spend the resources to "manage" hosting themselves, they tend to have resources to "manage" design on their own as well, so I have to disagree on that point.
I know not all clients will need hosting due to their current host if they get a redesign from you, but most clients (about 92%) are fresh starters, and have no clue at all, they contact me for design and I also set them up on hosting, most dont even know about hosting or that they need it.
I am looking for a partner, i give free hosting and maybe a referral bonus fee.. and they give me clients. I have had designers even switch their old clients over to me, or clients that had hosting with other host to me afer a redesign. A good partner would do whats needed to keep their account in good standing and earn the referral bonus fee each month per client. I know its hard to get people each month, which is why I set it up to look at the average of what you send to me.

It is very well thought out, it just takes the right person to be my partner.

[octane]

I guess we just have to asgree to disagree.

It might be like that in the backwater part of the USA where you come from. 92% of clients? It is more like the 8% with my client base. I take it you don't have any blue chip companies that you do work for.

I guess I am just used to a higher kaliber of clients that have enough knowledge and intelligence to know what web hosting is. Even when I was working purely for local companies 2 or 3 years ago they knew what web hosting was and many preferred to purchase it themselves.

I think you'll find there are not so many unintelligent clients around in the UK compared to the USA.

[eliquid]

hey dont start with USA vs UK stories here, we all know who bailed out who in the world wars, the whole reason you have large companies in the UK to build sites for was because of us....

anyway, I do work for some bluechip companies.. all of which have hosting through me as well. It is true I deal alot with personal sites and small business, but I can say I do have at least 4 large corporations that I deal with on a regular basis, consulting on their sites. Corporations that have international appeal.

Many people think you just design and put up a site and thats it. The majority of my business is personal or small business sites and those people dont know about web design, hosting, marketing, or maintaince.. so they look to outsource that business...they think they can find one designer and that personal automatically knows the solutions to all those problems.. I give them those solutions and they trust me on them.

Just because you focus work with large corporations doesnt make you better, at the end of the night I know make people happy giving them answers to their problems.. they make me happy giving me money that enables me to retire early and sometimes "skip" work on summer days to play with my 3 year old son. I know im better than you anyways. I have a life of simple pleasures where my work has paid for my house, cars, future education bills and retirement when I do. My business grows not by advertisements on forums, search engines, or directories... I have the pleasure of knowing 80% of my business comes from word of mouth.. and thats the best advertisement.

When you can do better, than maybe ill listen... but for now this discussion between you and me is over.

[octane]

The americans have such a warped idea of history. The only reason the americans didn't bother with the war until the last minute was for purely selfish economic reasons which has now put them into the strong finiancial position they are in now where they can now start their own wars while every other country involved was bankrupt. Financial profit out of pure greed and cowardice! Anyway stop changing the subject!

You know nothing about me or my position or the quality of my design. But judging by the state of your site and your one portfolio piece: "Richie the gay boy escort" you can't pass judgement on anybody whose work you havent seen.

[eliquid]

any reason for war is economic in the end... to either take over land, supress others, loot gold, or control religion.. it all boils down to money in the end. Besides, regardless why we did it, we still helped you and gave back your country to you.

I think it great we have the power and courage to have gotton ourselves in that position to even begin with, much cant be said for when it comes to your country though when it comes to wars or financial resources.

I list one portfolio piece at a time thank you per month, and Richie wanteed a site built for under $50.00 and I agreed to him I would.. who cares what i design for who and how I display it. Judging by the fact your too scared to show your site url or pieces, i'd say your the coward here

[octane]

Unlike some I don't feel the need to brag about my work and show it off on forums in an attempt to try and gain some more poxy small fry work.

The only negative thing about our country in wars is the fact that the americans keep forgetting whose side they are on and killing the british! Hmmm, friendly fire? My arse!

I think you need to consult your history books. When exactly did we lose control of our country?

[eliquid]

lets see, you couldnt take over the colonies when we first came here, you were about beaten to a pulp in both wars before america jumped in.. hell hitlers army had your country gasping for life before we decided to help your pityful soul.

i dont mind the small poxy stuff either, im about solutions for people, not how big or bold my sites are.. maybe thats why i dont care about you or your site.

[octane]

So when did we lose our country?

[eliquid]

hemmm..... not only is your dental hygene bad in UK, but you must dropped out of 2nd grade as well... you must not be able to read or comprehend words very well.

like I said before, the last world war is a good example... pretty much in a nutshell you were left alone to face hitler and begging us for help, I call that loss of your country when you cant take care of yourself and beg us to come across the pond to help you defeat a foe.

No one said we could even win, but at least we tried.. and you see we are one of the most powerful countries in the world because we try and overcome. I cant help you cant understand that point of view.. maybe you should have you mum help you read this post as well.. considering you comprehend what is being told to you.

i dont come to board to pick fight unlike yourself, like i said earlier this discussion with YOU is over.

I find it odd too that if you do so well, we are you inquiring about free hosting anyways when i started this post? haha

[Ro]

Ok fellas, let's tuck in our skirts and keep this convo above the belt. Debating ideas is one thing, but escalating that to disrespecting ones country is something you should exchange back and forth through email. You probably are both intelligent and talented designers, however your posts are making you look a little ridiculous.