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Bill Posters · 20-10-2003, 04:55

I notice that you haven't voted yourself.
Are you testing the water for an upcoming project?

(me: 'They are ok if the total size is small.')

dorian · 20-10-2003, 05:03

Bill:
yes, I'm kind of testing - also - I'm somewhere between 1 and 2 - but that'd just give people too much choice... so I left that option out...
avatar - yes! (hee hee - too late!) would you like a tutorial?

Bill Posters · 20-10-2003, 05:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorian

avatar - yes! (hee hee - too late!) would you like a tutorial?

eh?

Stickman · 20-10-2003, 06:11

I just like to know what I'm waiting for. That's all I ask. Stick a filesize in the text.

Loading... and a swirly graphic could mean '650kb - go and make a cup of tea' or could be '80kb - one second please'.

(new subsist, for example)

dorian · 20-10-2003, 06:39

subsist - i agree... plus it goes full screen...
(why do i agree?)

Mr Fred · 20-10-2003, 06:43

I know - nothing to do with me - i am in process of kicking the bastards in. They never ran it past me before uploading.

dorian · 20-10-2003, 06:58

Mik: go for it

---
Stickman: but for 33k... would you? would you?
...would you?

Stickman · 20-10-2003, 07:30

Yes I would. It's just good manners.

It's very simple - preloaders tell the user what their browser is doing, rather than simply having a flash file hijack it. You should tell them how big the file is and (if they choose to wait) show them an indication of the progress - loading bar, %, plain text etc.

But for 33kb (a few seconds wait) - I'd just go with Loading... (33kb)

tomson · 20-10-2003, 07:36

After seeing some flash user testing a while back I always use them - just something simple tho

dorian · 20-10-2003, 08:13

yeah... might do them anyway...
btw:
nice & small preloaders from a new member

http://www.designerstalk.com/forums/...7550#post17550 (...all over the site)

Brown · 20-10-2003, 12:12

i agree with the stickfella. although its really an audience issue. will your intended audience want to see your logo bouncing across the screen?

always have:
- skip link (which loads before the animation does)
- indication of file size
- automatic detection (don't make me search around your page for the enter link)

a recent client of mine wanted one. - why, i asked. -b'cos none of our competitors do, it'll make us look more professional.

it was for a recruitment site. my protestations were put aside, flash intro included. bugger them.

dorian · 20-10-2003, 14:30

it's not for an intro - but display of images in my portfolio.
The entire site is html... so it would be only for the images: thumbnails and full previews.
Kind of an obuse of Flash! Always a pleasure....

Brown · 20-10-2003, 14:34

preloaders can be quite pretty but why complicate things? add a 'loading' image to the background of the table/div/page?

dorian · 20-10-2003, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Posters

eh?

missed that one...
even?

dorian · 20-10-2003, 14:40

Quote:

preloaders can be quite pretty but why complicate things? add a 'loading' image to the background of the table/div/page?

thing is... i will be using flash on the collage anyway...
yes - again - only for aesthetic purposes: smooth mouseovers.

dorian · 20-10-2003, 14:41

(collage: similar system to what you can see on my existing site)

sleepingfish · 21-10-2003, 04:47

I like to see the loading progress rather than just "loading".
I have no prpblem with preloaders unless they lead to an unecessary intro animation. (Skip Intro: essential).

View Poll Results: ...so what do you think when you see that 'LOADING' bar?
They put me off.	1	10.00%
They are ok if the total size is small.	7	70.00%
Yay - it's gonna get funky! I can wait!	1	10.00%
Not bothered. I have a fast connection.	1	10.00%
Voters: 10. You may not vote on this poll

20-10-2003, 04:31	#1 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,233	Preloaders.... / __________________ ...

20-10-2003, 05:03	#3 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,233	Bill: yes, I'm kind of testing - also - I'm somewhere between 1 and 2 - but that'd just give people too much choice... so I left that option out... avatar - yes! (hee hee - too late!) would you like a tutorial? __________________ ...

20-10-2003, 06:39	#6 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,233	subsist - i agree... plus it goes full screen... (why do i agree?) __________________ ...

20-10-2003, 06:58	#8 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,233	Mik: go for it --- Stickman: but for 33k... would you? would you? ...would you? __________________ ...

20-10-2003, 04:55	#2 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,880	I notice that you haven't voted yourself. Are you testing the water for an upcoming project? (me: 'They are ok if the total size is small.')

20-10-2003, 06:11	#5 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,628	I just like to know what I'm waiting for. That's all I ask. Stick a filesize in the text. Loading... and a swirly graphic could mean '650kb - go and make a cup of tea' or could be '80kb - one second please'. (new subsist, for example)

20-10-2003, 06:43	#7 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,275	I know - nothing to do with me - i am in process of kicking the bastards in. They never ran it past me before uploading.

20-10-2003, 07:30	#9 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,628	Yes I would. It's just good manners. It's very simple - preloaders tell the user what their browser is doing, rather than simply having a flash file hijack it. You should tell them how big the file is and (if they choose to wait) show them an indication of the progress - loading bar, %, plain text etc. But for 33kb (a few seconds wait) - I'd just go with Loading... (33kb)

20-10-2003, 07:36	#10 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	After seeing some flash user testing a while back I always use them - just something simple tho

20-10-2003, 08:13	#11 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,233	yeah... might do them anyway... btw: nice & small preloaders from a new member http://www.designerstalk.com/forums/...7550#post17550 (...all over the site) __________________ ...

20-10-2003, 12:12	#12 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,214	i agree with the stickfella. although its really an audience issue. will your intended audience want to see your logo bouncing across the screen? always have: - skip link (which loads before the animation does) - indication of file size - automatic detection (don't make me search around your page for the enter link) a recent client of mine wanted one. - why, i asked. -b'cos none of our competitors do, it'll make us look more professional. it was for a recruitment site. my protestations were put aside, flash intro included. bugger them.

20-10-2003, 14:30	#13 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,233	it's not for an intro - but display of images in my portfolio. The entire site is html... so it would be only for the images: thumbnails and full previews. Kind of an obuse of Flash! Always a pleasure.... __________________ ...

20-10-2003, 14:34	#14 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,214	preloaders can be quite pretty but why complicate things? add a 'loading' image to the background of the table/div/page?

20-10-2003, 14:41	#17 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,233	(collage: similar system to what you can see on my existing site) __________________ ...

21-10-2003, 04:47	#18 (permalink)
sleepingfish css is for divs Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Norwich Posts: 4,524	I like to see the loading progress rather than just "loading". I have no prpblem with preloaders unless they lead to an unecessary intro animation. (Skip Intro: essential).

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