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gpeach110 · 30-09-2005, 10:33

Hello all.

We are currently redesigning our website (it will be built in Flash 8) and are having problems with choosing a font that is readable (many of our users will be 50+) when aliased in Flash. We started with Frutiger and after about a month of different tests are on the verge of ditching it in favor of a font designed specifically for the web. Our web designers say it has nothing to do with the font (so switching won't help) and more to do with the fact that it's viewed at 72 dpi. I'm not knowledgeable enough about the aliasing or rendering issues in Flash to question this - anyone have any ideas??

Mr Fred · 30-09-2005, 10:33

get new web designers.

gray · 30-09-2005, 10:34

i would bet that users of 50+ will take a while to install flash 8?

smallbeer · 30-09-2005, 10:36

some of top_buzz's hard house banners might go down a storm.

gray · 30-09-2005, 10:44

do you have a sample of what you are seeing that isnt good enough in flash 8?

Mr Fred · 30-09-2005, 10:51

this.
flash text

gray · 30-09-2005, 10:59

well thats both legible and beautiful..

gpeach110 · 30-09-2005, 11:01

this is all very helpful - (mr. mik, I'm beginning to feel there is some the wisdom in your first point!) but can you give me some solid advice on what the problem is with using frutiger in flash (if there is one) and whether verdana or another font designed for on-screen use would be more appropriate?

Mr Fred · 30-09-2005, 11:02

aahhh Mr.

gpeach110 · 30-09-2005, 11:03

i'll upload a jpeg of the text we're seeing in flash 8.

gpeach110 · 30-09-2005, 11:05

sample attached

Stickman · 30-09-2005, 11:13

Looks ok to me. Just needs to be bigger.

Mr Fred · 30-09-2005, 11:13

you taking the piss?

Stickman · 30-09-2005, 11:14

gpeach110 · 30-09-2005, 11:18

the problem is that we think this is too blurry /small at 10 point; the designers disagree; we wanted to go slightly bigger; they don't want to; so we either need to go with this or choose another font.

Guevara · 30-09-2005, 11:21

If your target is 50+ I'd say it'd need to be at least 12 if not 14pt no matter what font, personally I think it's fine, but then I'm not an old fucker

Stickman · 30-09-2005, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Mik

get new web designers.

If they think thats fine for over-50s, I'd be very unhappy. They obviously don't understand your market.

Although you said you're using flash 8 so maybe you don't either.

gpeach110 · 30-09-2005, 11:24

we like it for design reasons, but are not convinced it's readable to everyone. so the question is, is there a better font choice at 10 point size (i.e. is our problem Frutiger), or is the problem with Flash (i.e. will another font make no difference)? Or neither?

Mr Fred · 30-09-2005, 11:27

just make it bigger and ask your granny.

gpeach110 · 30-09-2005, 11:27

They're not unintelligent / technologically retarded 50+s, just might have more trouble reading small font sizes. The penetration rate of Flash 7 was fairly quick / thorough and they expect Flash 8 to be the same.

30-09-2005, 10:33	#1 (permalink)
gpeach110 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	font problems in flash Hello all. We are currently redesigning our website (it will be built in Flash 8) and are having problems with choosing a font that is readable (many of our users will be 50+) when aliased in Flash. We started with Frutiger and after about a month of different tests are on the verge of ditching it in favor of a font designed specifically for the web. Our web designers say it has nothing to do with the font (so switching won't help) and more to do with the fact that it's viewed at 72 dpi. I'm not knowledgeable enough about the aliasing or rendering issues in Flash to question this - anyone have any ideas??

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gpeach110 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	sample attached Attached Thumbnails

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30-09-2005, 10:33	#2 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,354	get new web designers.

30-09-2005, 10:34	#3 (permalink)
gray i still want paying Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: newcastle, uk Posts: 4,713	i would bet that users of 50+ will take a while to install flash 8?

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smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,200	some of top_buzz's hard house banners might go down a storm.

30-09-2005, 10:44	#5 (permalink)
gray i still want paying Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: newcastle, uk Posts: 4,713	do you have a sample of what you are seeing that isnt good enough in flash 8?

30-09-2005, 10:51	#6 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,354	this. flash text

30-09-2005, 10:59	#7 (permalink)
gray i still want paying Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: newcastle, uk Posts: 4,713	well thats both legible and beautiful..

30-09-2005, 11:01	#8 (permalink)
gpeach110 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	this is all very helpful - (mr. mik, I'm beginning to feel there is some the wisdom in your first point!) but can you give me some solid advice on what the problem is with using frutiger in flash (if there is one) and whether verdana or another font designed for on-screen use would be more appropriate?

30-09-2005, 11:02	#9 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,354	aahhh Mr.

30-09-2005, 11:03	#10 (permalink)
gpeach110 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	i'll upload a jpeg of the text we're seeing in flash 8.

30-09-2005, 11:13	#12 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,527	Looks ok to me. Just needs to be bigger.

30-09-2005, 11:13	#13 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,354	you taking the piss?

30-09-2005, 11:18	#15 (permalink)
gpeach110 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	the problem is that we think this is too blurry /small at 10 point; the designers disagree; we wanted to go slightly bigger; they don't want to; so we either need to go with this or choose another font.

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Guevara Gimme Ma Milk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Anywhere I'm needed Posts: 219	If your target is 50+ I'd say it'd need to be at least 12 if not 14pt no matter what font, personally I think it's fine, but then I'm not an old fucker

30-09-2005, 11:24	#18 (permalink)
gpeach110 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	we like it for design reasons, but are not convinced it's readable to everyone. so the question is, is there a better font choice at 10 point size (i.e. is our problem Frutiger), or is the problem with Flash (i.e. will another font make no difference)? Or neither?

30-09-2005, 11:27	#19 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,354	just make it bigger and ask your granny.

30-09-2005, 11:27	#20 (permalink)
gpeach110 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	They're not unintelligent / technologically retarded 50+s, just might have more trouble reading small font sizes. The penetration rate of Flash 7 was fairly quick / thorough and they expect Flash 8 to be the same.

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