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29FIVE Designs · 28-04-2007, 23:42

So I have this issue with a company that has been inactive on the web since 2004 and their domain expires in 2010. All of the email accounts listed in the WhoIs and on their site are no longer valid. I want the domain and I have no way of getting it! Or do I? Anyone know?

Thanks in advance.

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joey · 29-04-2007, 00:16

You wait three years to see if you can buy the domain... and by that time I would hope that you have done something with your life besides wait for a domain name.

29FIVE Designs · 29-04-2007, 00:24

That's kind of depressing... I've wanted this domain since 1995. And now it seems ridiculous the circumstances. But I've lived without it for this long; I think I can wait for three more years...

joey · 29-04-2007, 00:37

I'm only kidding. But yeah, don't contact them right now, they will know someone wants it and then will jack up the price.

29FIVE Designs · 29-04-2007, 00:48

OK, but just for reference, how would you go about trying to purchase a domain from someone?

cam · 29-04-2007, 03:42

you'd just have to chase down a member of the company. if they've ceased trading, you'd basically be trying to track down the people listed on the whois records as the owner or billing contact. if you get lucky and find them, then make an offer (if it's not being used, you might not even have to pay that much but I s'pose it depends on the person you're dealing with) and get them to transfer the domain to you.

weldo · 01-05-2007, 06:09

if you've already waited 12 years for something, and its been inactive for 3 years now, then good luck in getting off your arse and getting it.

could i suggest you find an alternative ? as a contingency plan ... ?

ReMiX · 19-06-2007, 13:08

You would have to find the company that hosts it, and purchase it on backorder so in three years when its expired, you are the first one in line to get it.

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Bill Posters · 19-06-2007, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReMiX

You would have to find the company that hosts it, and purchase it on backorder so in three years when its expired, you are the first one in line to get it.

…assuming you were the first one to use the current registrar to backorder it.

Been there. Tried that. Didn't get the domain.

roto · 19-06-2007, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Posters

…assuming you were the first one to use the current registrar to backorder it.

Been there. Tried that. Didn't get the domain.

The triumphant return of Bill Posters? (err... .com)?

Bill Posters · 20-06-2007, 02:12

Just sniffing around.

It was GD who managed to resecure the domain back in 2005 (they being the existing registrars), but evidently there was someone else ahead of me who also had it in mind to put in a backorder through GD.
The domain in question (a two-word, unhyphenated, but easily readable .com) was snapped up by a new registrant - a publishing company with only a tenuous connection to one of the two keywords in the domain.
Currently, they use it to simply redirect those typing in the domain on the off-chance to their main company site. They've no presence in the serps for that keyphrase. G.com serps list 43,000 and 39,800,000 entries for the two-word phrase quoted and unquoted respectively.

…to add to my slowly ever-growing list of domains bought with set project in mind, but which I've yet to produce anything more than a holding page.
(I'm reluctant to throw them onto Sedo in the meantime, but I've one or two which could potentially do quite well if used of PPC.)

All that said, I'm regularly surprised at what 'nuggets' can still be found to be available when a potential domain name occurs to me.
On the flip-side, if it's taken, I forget about it and move on. I haven't attempted to backorder a domain since the single instance mentioned above, though I may use the existing, non-refundable backorder credit from my previous failed attempt to take another swing at it when it lapses again later this year.

Snowshiro · 20-06-2007, 02:54

There are a few companies that provide domain mediation services, although I'm not sure how good they are. They will try to get a domain released if it can be proven that it's in limbo. I think netnames.com used to do that kind of thing, but I don't know if they still do.

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29-04-2007, 00:16	#2 (permalink)
joey Joey™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,081	You wait three years to see if you can buy the domain... and by that time I would hope that you have done something with your life besides wait for a domain name.

29-04-2007, 00:24	#3 (permalink)
29FIVE Designs Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 15	That's kind of depressing... I've wanted this domain since 1995. And now it seems ridiculous the circumstances. But I've lived without it for this long; I think I can wait for three more years...

29-04-2007, 00:37	#4 (permalink)
joey Joey™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,081	I'm only kidding. But yeah, don't contact them right now, they will know someone wants it and then will jack up the price.

29-04-2007, 00:48	#5 (permalink)
29FIVE Designs Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 15	OK, but just for reference, how would you go about trying to purchase a domain from someone?

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ReMiX wise a$s Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 26	You would have to find the company that hosts it, and purchase it on backorder so in three years when its expired, you are the first one in line to get it.

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rfresh Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 33	@29FIVE We have a product just for you: DomainAlert Pro Check it out under our Domains nav link. RalphF Home of $4.99 Hosting GoldRushWebHosting.com

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Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,937	Just sniffing around. It was GD who managed to resecure the domain back in 2005 (they being the existing registrars), but evidently there was someone else ahead of me who also had it in mind to put in a backorder through GD. The domain in question (a two-word, unhyphenated, but easily readable .com) was snapped up by a new registrant - a publishing company with only a tenuous connection to one of the two keywords in the domain. Currently, they use it to simply redirect those typing in the domain on the off-chance to their main company site. They've no presence in the serps for that keyphrase. G.com serps list 43,000 and 39,800,000 entries for the two-word phrase quoted and unquoted respectively. …to add to my slowly ever-growing list of domains bought with set project in mind, but which I've yet to produce anything more than a holding page. (I'm reluctant to throw them onto Sedo in the meantime, but I've one or two which could potentially do quite well if used of PPC.) All that said, I'm regularly surprised at what 'nuggets' can still be found to be available when a potential domain name occurs to me. On the flip-side, if it's taken, I forget about it and move on. I haven't attempted to backorder a domain since the single instance mentioned above, though I may use the existing, non-refundable backorder credit from my previous failed attempt to take another swing at it when it lapses again later this year.

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Snowshiro Will work for Marmite Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sapporo, Japan Posts: 574	There are a few companies that provide domain mediation services, although I'm not sure how good they are. They will try to get a domain released if it can be proven that it's in limbo. I think netnames.com used to do that kind of thing, but I don't know if they still do.

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