Health & Fitness

CM_
CM_
SomethingPosts: 13,770 in General Discussion
I've had a look round on the forum and it seems that we don't have a generic fitness discussion thread?

Maybe it would be a cool place to talk about fitness goals/progress

Reviews on some gear/gadgets you have been using.

Diet...etc

Anyway I wanted to ask if anyone knows of a place where I can get a starter set up for olympic style weightliting for a decent price?

So I just want an olympic bar and some starter bumper plates.

I've started crossfit recently which I love but the membership costs a fortune so I was going to put together a "box" in my garage
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  • Signum
    Signum
    Bliss™ Posts: 4,557
    I believe this turned into the health & fitness thread but maybe it's time to start a new one.
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    Powerhouse fitness
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    I play in the Sussex Squash Leagues.

    Sussex Squash Online League - 2013/2014 - V11a

    So that keeps me fit.

    The gym bores me.
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    I do both. Conventional gym is boring but crossfit is probably more akin to a sport since you are competing on time
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    What do you want an Olympic weight set for? What the fuck is crossfit?
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
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    this ^

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    its an exercise concept that's come across from america, its basically meant to be functional fitness using combination of olympic lifts, gymnastics, and cardio
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    So, life before we all sat down at desks?

    I have simplified my work out equipment massively of late. It now made up of three kettle bells, a punch bag, a hill and a dog. It will soon include an axe and some logs.
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    Klang wrote:
    So, life before we all sat down at desks?

    I have simplified my work out equipment massively of late. It now compromises of three kettle bells, a punch bag, a hill and a dog.

    Yeah kettlebells are good fun, I have a 20kg one that I've been throwing around.

    I'm mostly working on my form atm while i pick up the basic lifts/movements
  • Giraffe
    Giraffe
    toxic designer Posts: 9,888
    Lifting a rotweiler is the easiest way to bulk the trapezius.
  • socreative
    socreative
    deal with it Posts: 8,926
    I go to the gym pretty regularly, although I think my diet could be better.

    Check this guy out

    [yt]RFPsvF3UOdo[/yt]
  • joe_nicklo
    joe_nicklo
    Giraffe Loves Me. Posts: 2,755
    I'll be doing Kris Gethin's 12 week program followed by his DTP Program.

    After getting hit by a car last year and getting sick last month, I've gained and lost 40lbs. Now I'm back down and wanna build muscle while burning more fat.
  • slate
    slate
    Senior Member Posts: 6,137
    I lost 15lbs doing renos and I wasn't big to begin with :(
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    CM_ wrote:
    I'm mostly working on my form atm while i pick up the basic lifts/movements
    Good man, CM. Nice to see someone start in the right place.
  • LittleMick
    LittleMick
    also known as little dick. The Occupied SixPosts: 9,004
    Stupid question, but what do you mean by 'working on my form'?
  • Limbo
    Limbo
    Established Norm Posts: 27,390
    I've lost nearly 12 lbs using myFitnessPal and Runtastic monitoring - trying to transform the remaining pot belly into mad dog abs and Ben-Hur forearms. Latter's not going as well (see "lunch").
  • dh
    dh
    aka Mr Hound Posts: 5,431
    LittleMick wrote:
    Stupid question, but what do you mean by 'working on my form'?


    Better to make slow controlled movements rather than huffing and fuffing and throwing the weights around.
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    LittleMick wrote:
    Stupid question, but what do you mean by 'working on my form'?
    There is a right way to lift weights and a wrong way. The right way is often ignored by Gym Dicks as you can generally lift more incorrectly than you can correctly, you just won't be as strong for doing it.

    For instance, the correct way to bench press is to place you hands 1.5x of shoulder width, slowly lower the bar while breathing in, stop 2cm above the chest, hold for two seconds and slowly lift the bar while breathing out with your back remaining flat on the bench.

    Common things I see in the gym that are poor form are chest bouncers, short stoppers, back archers and spotters getting a bicep work out.
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    Bad form

    deadlift-technique-rounding-the-back-neutral-spine.jpg

    One on the left is bad form. Basically you will fuck you're back and do yourself some damage if you're not getting you're form right

    In the crossfit I go to you basically have to practice this with a PVC pipe before they let you go anywhere near any actual weights. So you basically feel light a right fucking plum when there is a bunch of girls lifting some big plates. You pretty much have to leave you're ego at the door and just soak up the advice
  • LittleMick
    LittleMick
    also known as little dick. The Occupied SixPosts: 9,004
    Thanks. I do see some of guys in the gym going 'hell-for-leather' on the weights. Always was of the impression that is was quality not quantity when it came to weights.
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    Gyms are often full of dicks.
  • socreative
    socreative
    deal with it Posts: 8,926
    when injuries roll in those quantity oriented ones will regret massively
  • socreative
    socreative
    deal with it Posts: 8,926
    Klang wrote:
    Gyms are always full of dicks.

    fixed
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    Cm, are you Hench?
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    socreative wrote:
    fixed
    I didn't want to generalise, but, yes.
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    Cm, are you Hench?

    No not at all really. Medium slim build 5'10 and 11st 7lbs. Not carrying much fat, I don't have the kind of physique in those vids but I've only been doing it for a month or so.

    That said I'm quite fit and have good stamina/strength
  • Matt_e11
    Matt_e11
    Grammatically inconsisten Posts: 5,076
    Klang wrote:
    I didn't want to generalise, but, yes.

    This is the world in general.
    You think it more in a gym because you feel inferior or embarrassed about working out. Just get on with your work out and let them get on with theirs, if they do something stupid you can laugh about it.

    I don't bother with the gym anymore, just work out at home. Only thing I miss about it is the swimming pool, sauna and steam room.
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    Matt_e11 wrote:
    You think it more in a gym because you feel inferior or embarrassed about working out.
    Not really. I'd say it was the opposite, generally the dicks in a gym are doing so because they feel inferior.
  • joe_nicklo
    joe_nicklo
    Giraffe Loves Me. Posts: 2,755
    Good form trumps how much you're lifting. I've seen guys at the gym doing back work with heavy weight and completely wrong form. A few weeks later they're complaining about pain. I always start light until I lear the movement. Only then do I add weight.
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    One thing that i found suprizing is that flexibility is actually a big factor in being able to lift weights properly. I was struggling at the start because I'm quite stiff through my back and arms.

    Also anatomics play a big part if you have long shins and short arms for instance you're going to have problems
  • demt
    demt
    Senior Member Posts: 1,614
    mental havoc in rotating the diffrent exercizes
  • demt
    demt
    Senior Member Posts: 1,614
    my own gym and free weights
  • steharg
    steharg
    Senior Member Posts: 3,013
    I started running a few months back after not doing very much since playing 5-aside a few years ago.

    Wanted to get a bit fitter and lose a bit of the beer belly that was beginning to form. Anyway, been going well and liking it alot.
    I've got in the routine of getting up an hour earlier and out for a run every other day or when time permits, im not that regimental about it, but feel alot fitter, lost a bit of weight and more importantly, feel x10 better than i used to.

    The acid test is when winter hits to get myself out the door of a morning, but I'll see how it goes and i'll probably (hopefully) enter a 10k or so to push myself a bit next year.
  • socreative
    socreative
    deal with it Posts: 8,926
    demt is lifting spliffs
  • joe_nicklo
    joe_nicklo
    Giraffe Loves Me. Posts: 2,755
    CM_ wrote:
    One thing that i found suprizing is that flexibility is actually a big factor in being able to lift weights properly. I was struggling at the start because I'm quite stiff through my back and arms.

    Also anatomics play a big part if you have long shins and short arms for instance you're going to have problems

    I hear ya. I can only go down so far on squats...my body just wont do it.
  • roto
    roto
    |-/ Posts: 12,958
    socreative wrote:
    demt is lifting spliffs
    :mrgreen:
  • Pete Nice
    Pete Nice
    Gorzilla Posts: 5,230
    This thread isn't homoerotic enough yet - you need more pics of ripped dudes.
  • Rawiri
    Rawiri
    Have at you sire Posts: 1,415
    I'll send you a picture of my piece if you show me your ring
  • socreative
    socreative
    deal with it Posts: 8,926
    HsNFLpK.jpg
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    whats the consensus of muscular looking women?

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    athleticdenaebrownmuscularstrongweightlifting-be202c061b3248b03da3e71b5cea7f47_h-307x460.jpg

    Personally Im a fan. Stick thin girls don't really have the same appeal
  • top_buzz
    top_buzz
    For your health! Posts: 6,752
    Hideous!
  • socreative
    socreative
    deal with it Posts: 8,926
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  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    yeah there is muscular and then there is freak.

    not even genetically possible for women to look like that without steroids

    guaranteed most women that people flag up as hot have done some form of resistance (weights)
  • handcraftedweb
    handcraftedweb
    thought leader Left coastPosts: 6,821
    I wonder if their vaginas are super powerful.
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    They are.
  • Limbo
    Limbo
    Established Norm Posts: 27,390
    I see this thread is going well.
  • LittleMick
    LittleMick
    also known as little dick. The Occupied SixPosts: 9,004
    Weighed myself this morning and realised I've lost just under a stone in the last two months from cycling, swimming and hitting the gym (albeit not that often).
  • pmek
    pmek
    Banned Posts: 9,297
    I gym four days a week. Currently working on compound exercises for each muscle group. Also do a bit of running, skipping and swimming.

    Skipping is a proper killer.

    Going well so far...
  • steveb
    steveb
    BitterHusk Original™ Järvenpää FinlandPosts: 24,103
    Limbo wrote:
    I see this thread is going well.

    A blind man would be happy to see it. That's what I tell myself.

    I've lost 5 kilos this year by cutting out most cheese and eggs. And my cholesterol levels improved from 6.7 mmol to 6.0 mmol in 8 months.
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    Limbo wrote:
    I see this thread is going well.


    Yep, I have cleaned it up so that i dont have to look at socreatives porno collection every time i look in the thread ;)

    Back on topic: played squash last night and it was like a furnace, died of exhaustion. A long way to go till i hit my fitness goals
  • dh
    dh
    aka Mr Hound Posts: 5,431
    Nice video. I do like beach volleyball but tennis is my favourite.
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    CM_ wrote:
    Back on topic: played squash last night and it was like a furnace, died of exhaustion. A long way to go till i hit my fitness goals

    Snap! - played for 2 and a half hours, then had 3 pints of Stella to re-hydrate.

    :cheers:
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    aye likewise I went for some lagers after, compulsory!

    2 and half hours though you mad bastard! same player or do you have three people and play games in rotation?
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    It's our Squash Clubs 'club night' so there's 3 courts and about 10 of us, if you win you go up a court, lose, you go down, you get 5mins break here and there, think I had 3 breaks last night.

    The idea being to end up on the 'top' court when the whistle goes.
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    I bet that's grim, if you're going full tilt squash is totally draining.

    Are you ranking quite high in your league then?

    I think I need some proper tuition to get to the next level, been playing pretty rgular for about 6 years now but I think I have plateaued in terms of my skill. Squash is infuriating as well when you're not winning
  • Pete Nice
    Pete Nice
    Gorzilla Posts: 5,230
    Need to get back playing squash - gone tits up since my little one was born.
  • David
    David
    Keeping Tom Happy Posts: 12,969
    Pete Nice wrote:
    Need to get back playing squash - gone tits up since my little one was born.

    Amen to that
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    Friend of mine did this... Sussex man attempts world record for longest game of squash ... a few years ago.

    I was on court for a few hours with him.
  • Pugsley
    Pugsley
    ScotlandPosts: 10,890
    I reckon if I tried to play squash the ball would hit me square in the face within about 4 seconds of entering the court. Is it as hard as it looks?
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    CM_ wrote:
    Are you ranking quite high in your league then?

    I think I need some proper tuition to get to the next level, been playing pretty rgular for about 6 years now but I think I have plateaued in terms of my skill. Squash is infuriating as well when you're not winning

    At the moment I'm about 8th out of 60 people in the Clubs leagues, so yeah, quite high. Our club has a high playing standard in the Sussex leagues; for instance our 5th team sometimes will play the 2nd team of another club.

    Don't get lessons, just hit the ball straight and keep doing that until your opponent hits a loose ball, then kill / drop it.
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    At the moment I'm about 8th out of 60 people in the Clubs leagues, so yeah, quite high. Our club has a high playing standard in the Sussex leagues; for instance our 5th team sometimes will play the 2nd team of another club.

    Don't get lessons, just hit the ball straight and keep doing that until your opponent hits a loose ball, then kill / drop it.

    you mean strait to length down the side walls?
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    Yep, like this....
    (with the old cross court thrown in now and again)

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  • jamblo
    jamblo
    Tea Snob Posts: 5,598
    what a peculiar sport.
  • jack
    jack
    Senior Member Posts: 2,167
    Despite having a name that gives me douche-chills, The Iron Gym Extreme is the most useful piece of home gym equipment i've ever bought.

    Fits onto most doorframes and allows you to do a variety of different pullups. Great for your back, which I always found to be one of the more difficult areas to work at home.

    I can do 2-3 times the number of standard chinups I used to manage. Also, stick your legs straight out while doing them and it provides a solid core/stomach workout.
  • socreative
    socreative
    deal with it Posts: 8,926
    was deadlifting 105kg today. i weight 77kg. yeah bwoy
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    jamblo wrote:
    what a peculiar sport.

    Totally agree.
    It does sometimes feel funny whacking a tiny ball around a box.
    The only other sport I got into was BMX'ing and some people find that a bit peculiar.

    But i'll tell you this, playing squash gives me a buzz comparable to riding bmx trails.
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    yeah squash is addictive no doubt. When it's being played well it's an excellent game to watch. I hope it makes it into the olympics next time
  • Matt_e11
    Matt_e11
    Grammatically inconsisten Posts: 5,076
    I'm shit at squash, I play 2 bounce. Just do it for the exercise.
  • David
    David
    Keeping Tom Happy Posts: 12,969
    get back to the tee after every shot, watch the ball not the player

    that's all they'll tell you in a lesson - the rest is just practice and finesse
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    the other thing that i learnt is not running at the ball but to the position yourself where you want to hit it from. Common mistake is charging at the ball and not giving yourself enough room to hit it. If you take long strides as well you can get to most positions in 2/3 steps.

    Holding the racket right is important , i think you need to keep the face quite open and shorten your grip at the back.

    Patience as well, wait for the ball to sit up off the back instead of trying to time it to early or take it on the volley if you can

    One more thing is not to charge onto the tee and plant your feet because you'll send yourself off balance, if you walk to it at the right pace you'll have the right momentum to keep going for the next shot
  • David
    David
    Keeping Tom Happy Posts: 12,969
    If you're positioning yourself properly the game feels a lot slower and you don't feel like you're rushing shots

    I've been shown a grip where you run your index finger along the length of the racquet, but I always lose that technique during a game

    a decent serve helps too

    haven't played for about 2 years now, would be sweaty mess in the middle of the court within about 5 minutes
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    yeah i find with serves it depends who you're playing. The 2 guys I play have completely different strengths.

    For one I use a slow high looping shot and for the other I smash it hard and low.

    I find mixing the pace up can throw someone off there game. Go from frenetic pace to slow lobs and you can frustrate you're opponent.
  • David
    David
    Keeping Tom Happy Posts: 12,969
    I mix the serves up

    and I do a barely audible impression of dr zoidberg while the other player is serving
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    The lessons I've had went like this... over a year approx.

    (Body position / racket swing and grip correct at this point)

    1.Footwork and Line and Length with Ghosting & drilling.
    2.Economy of movement.
    3.Holding and deception.

    This is the best online coaching site by far....
    Squashskills - Conquer the Court
  • David
    David
    Keeping Tom Happy Posts: 12,969
    'ghosting and drilling'?

    that site expects me to pay for content!!!
  • scrooble
    scrooble
    One Pint or Two Love Posts: 6,562
    d*d wrote:
    I mix the serves up

    and I do a barely audible impression of dr zoidberg while the other player is serving

    haha brilliant, Im trying this next time.

    Whoopwhoopwhoop....
  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    Drilling
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  • freewheelin franklin
    freewheelin franklin
    aka Stuntman Posts: 4,093
    ghosting
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  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    I can see how that would help alot, once you have the stokes dialed in and the movement pattern more efficient then the games going to get a whole lot easier.

    It always amazes me the ball control they have when they drill the volley like that for so long
  • RockMeAmadeus
    RockMeAmadeus
    Banned Posts: 3,938
    Interesting you post that, Joe. More than 6 months ago I gave up alcohol. I've saved quite a bit of money doing just that. Two days ago I decided to try and give up coffee. So far so good. In time I'd like to give black tea up and consume just green tea and barley tea. That should do wonders for my health alone.

    I like squash. It's considered a gentleman's game here. It's extremely fun and challenging. I weight train 3x a week. Best numbers of 2013 were: 90 lb dummbell press for 5, 415 lb deadlift for 3 and a 325 lb squat for 5. Good enough for me. I would love to do some biking but I don't know what to get and I haven't seen a bike store in years. There's some fab scenic routes around where I live that I usually walk on, but would love to bike on. Maybe some mountain biking thrown in for good fun. I used to love bmx'ing.
  • joe_nicklo
    joe_nicklo
    Giraffe Loves Me. Posts: 2,755
    I'm hoping to get back into Ice Hockey
  • Matt_e11
    Matt_e11
    Grammatically inconsisten Posts: 5,076
    Went as a guest to my mates gym on friday. Place is an old nightclub converted, so very big. Only £21.99 per month - signed up. Went Friday night and Saturday morning.
    I could not walk properly Sunday and yesterday.
    1008-chest-calf-raise-2.jpg
    Stupid fucking machine.
  • Klang
    Klang
    Ray fucking Purchase Posts: 17,252
    Get some action in the sauna then Matt?
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
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  • Matt_e11
    Matt_e11
    Grammatically inconsisten Posts: 5,076
    Does anybody have and links to decent protein shakes?
    Don't want to pay loads for them
  • socreative
    socreative
    deal with it Posts: 8,926
    myprotein.com
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    Yeah i second that. good product, cheap and delivery is quick
  • Signum
    Signum
    Bliss™ Posts: 4,557
    I did tough mudder on saturday. None of you cunts gave a flying shit.
  • David
    David
    Keeping Tom Happy Posts: 12,969
    couple of the girls in the office did that last week, they said it was difficult
  • Signum
    Signum
    Bliss™ Posts: 4,557
    Yeah I can vouch for that, it was gruelling to say the least. Glad I did it though, raised about £100 for charity too so I'm pretty pleased.
  • Matt_e11
    Matt_e11
    Grammatically inconsisten Posts: 5,076
    Signum wrote:
    I did tough mudder on saturday. None of you cunts gave a flying shit.

    Is that one of them events where they all wear pink and hold hands while they skip?
  • Signum
    Signum
    Bliss™ Posts: 4,557
    You've done it before then??
  • jamblo
    jamblo
    Tea Snob Posts: 5,598
    Good work Signum. I did RockSolidRace last march. Good fun.
  • Signum
    Signum
    Bliss™ Posts: 4,557
    Nice one just Googled it, looks remarkably similar to TM. But only half the distance of course ;)

    Edit: sorry now who's being a cunt haha.
  • Pugsley
    Pugsley
    ScotlandPosts: 10,890
    Mate did Tough Mudder last year and was invited to the Toughest Mudder in the US. That sounded brutal. As many laps as you can in 24 hours. He managed 3.
  • Signum
    Signum
    Bliss™ Posts: 4,557
    Yeah I've heard of 24hr Tough Mudder. You've got to be made of different stuff to do that.
  • pmek
    pmek
    Banned Posts: 9,297
    Does anyone do any circuit training?
  • CM_
    CM_
    Something Posts: 13,770
    have done it in the past, its good old fashioned conditioning, deffo get you in shape but its a tad boring
  • pat
    pat
    dilaudid Posts: 9,337
    I've been making more of an effort recently – try and get to yoga 3 times a week (some gentle, some hot or dynamic) which really makes an impact on any other activities; far more flexible and able in general. A week of yoga and my body looks different. Then I got myself a hybrid bike and cycle 3/4 miles to my workspace and back every day. I've been getting up early and doing jog-a-lamp-post, stride-a-lamp-post, sprint-a-lamp-post, and just started going to the gym a couple times a week. So far spent most of my time on the crosstrainer, rowing machine and weight machines – free weights are always hogged my mirror-looking weight-dicks with double chins, crooked backs and massive biceps. But yoga and cycling are the only ones i truly enjoy. I've gone down a couple of waist sizes in 2 weeks, and eat majority vegetarian/raw. Lots of spirulina/bee pollen/berry smoothies.
  • handcraftedweb
    handcraftedweb
    thought leader Left coastPosts: 6,821
    Matt_e11 wrote:
    Does anybody have and links to decent protein shakes?
    Don't want to pay loads for them

    Natures Best Protein
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