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Old 27-04-2003, 07:55   #1 (permalink)
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Which site shall we redesign ?

The most popular choice for this months competition is to redesign a well-known site. The example given was google but I think this will be a bit basic as its basically a search box and logo.
My suggestion is yahoo as theres a bit more on there to get stuck into , plus I hate the design of it are people happy to go with this or do u have any better suggestions ?
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Old 27-04-2003, 08:30   #2 (permalink)
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sounds good to me deffinately more to get your teath into and your right, it is pretty horible. Would we just be redesigning the home page?

I guess the logo would have to remain the same? or would that be part of the brief as well?
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Old 27-04-2003, 09:47   #3 (permalink)
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Yep we would just be doing the homepage and the logo.
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Old 28-04-2003, 04:08   #4 (permalink)
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The new yahoo looks like Google - its not been launched yet but there is a url for it floating around somewhere.
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Old 28-04-2003, 04:14   #5 (permalink)
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yeah, its still crap http://new.search.yahoo.com/
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Old 28-04-2003, 14:12   #6 (permalink)
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Old 28-04-2003, 14:13   #7 (permalink)
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Old 28-04-2003, 14:29   #8 (permalink)
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It must be said I've seen better
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Old 28-04-2003, 14:41   #9 (permalink)
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their website looks like a paper brochure scanned and put up as a website.
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Old 28-04-2003, 15:15   #10 (permalink)
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stinx of the slicing tool & ImageReady to me
(but i'm not brainy enough to go into the code to tell)
besides - is it only me who HATES stretched photographs? I absolutely detest this effect...
woah... this section seems screwed on my machine (IE 5.5) (try to shrink your browser window below the size of the site - and then maximise it!)
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Old 28-04-2003, 18:18   #11 (permalink)
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Personal thoughts and facts!

Have in mind youngsters that Yahoo, Google etc. (Search Engines in general) have a large number of visits each second, so lay low on the graphic details!

Yahoo and Google might look like 1981, but despite the horible design of Google it still went from nothing to top-nutch' in a few years being the King of Engines today - my point being that design alone can't keep users comming back - in the case of Google only functionality can. Don't forget they mastered to hide some of the most advanced technology on the net behind a single searchfield!

On the other hand nobody said the logo, for instance, had to look extra ordinarily old-school (I for one would leave out the bevel and shadow not to mention the stupid color-system).

Don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying to ruin your little contest here, just trying to point out the importance of keeping the word "filesize" in the back of the design-orientated minds of thoose entering the competition. Someone mentioned that Yahoo seems quite impossible to navigate - I fully agree! The actual mission here is to find a way to present this bundle of sections and possibilities offered by Yahoo, yet making it easier to navigate. If the goal of this competition was to offer the design to Yahoo, this and the following would most likely be key aspects.

The idea behind todays design of Yahoo is known as LSD-design (Logo-Search-Directory) which was used by every Engine/Portal throughout the 90's and still is by a majority of Engines today. As people of all ages surf the web in different ways this would probably still be considered as a key point to the guys at Yahoo - the thing is: the latter part (Directory) has gone from well structured and easy to use for the not so handy surfers (such as parents and clients!!!) to an impossible pile of links - most of it hidden from the above mentioned non-handies working on a 800x600 desktop having to scroll at each visit.

I actually think Yahoo is going in the right direction with their new search-tool in which it seems they have left out all the junk, getting to the point offering just a simple searchfield as Google btw. Without having the slightest idea of their business, I would bet away my beloved license to PhotoShop that visitors come here mainly to SEARCH and not to read about horoscopes or cheap cruises.

There you have it - my 2 c. - good luck - and remember the frontpage of Google is a non-heavy 4 kb. size!
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Old 28-04-2003, 18:35   #12 (permalink)
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s1000: really??? tell me something new?
if you notice - nobody's attacking Google - but Yahoo - from a purely logical point of view - Yahoo IS messy...
...I think a skilled designer will know how to design it efficiently
...and if you have the time - challenge yourself to redesign it...
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Old 28-04-2003, 19:52   #13 (permalink)
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Yep, no complaints towards Google here, I couldn't get by without. The simplicity being what initially attracted me to it all those years ago, it gets straight to the point - no fuss. That they are willing to play with the themed logo's adds that extra bit of interest too, I know the Michelangelo one got me thinking a couple of months back, it was just a little random.

I agree that the new Yahoo page looks to be taking a step in the right direction, but it still uses the same drab identity - time for a breath of fresh air
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Old 28-04-2003, 20:01   #14 (permalink)
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[quote:d7b17c8414="dorian"]stinx of the slicing tool & ImageReady to me [/quote:d7b17c8414]

Don't know, looks like there's some Macromedia stuff in there...
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Old 29-04-2003, 03:42   #15 (permalink)
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Why not put an extremely low filesize on it? 3k all in for example? Or have a general <5k competition?
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Old 29-04-2003, 06:27   #16 (permalink)
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[quote:aea752d649]Why not put an extremely low filesize on it? 3k all in for example? Or have a general <5k competition?[/quote:aea752d649] I like that for a future competition, would be an interesting challenge
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Old 29-04-2003, 06:50   #17 (permalink)
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yeah it's fun/frustrating depending what you're trying to do.

Lets veer away from 5k though... there's already got a pretty well established venue for that http://www.the5k.org. We could go up or down. How about 10k with a pre-specified amount of content? might produce some more commercially viable designs than 5k which would be interesting.

Would Flash be aloud? some would say it has a unfair advantage with it's vector compression, or simply not aloud because it's a plug-in :eek:
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Old 29-04-2003, 07:12   #18 (permalink)
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for this competition - anything goes - use flash if you like, there is no set size for the page etc.
For the next competition tho I like the idea of some boundaries.
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Old 29-04-2003, 07:15   #19 (permalink)
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yeah didn't make that too clear did I, I was thinking about suggestions for the next competition, guess we better get this one done first though
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Old 30-04-2003, 19:44   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Personal thoughts and facts!

[quote:ff81b7dce7="s1000"]but despite the horible design of Google [/quote:ff81b7dce7]

Mmm, seeing as it's all relative, I'd refute that and say that the design of Google is [b:ff81b7dce7]excellent[/b:ff81b7dce7].
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