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nick08 · 04-07-2009, 07:53

So today I struck up a conversation with a woman who says she runs a business selling bath tubs to older people. I offered to do a website for them, she said she has one but hates it and I said I could take over all their web work, and she said great, I gave her my card, she said after the 4th of July weekend is over she will give me a call and I can meet her and we can discuss it all in further detail. I'm super excited yet super nervous about the whole thing; what should I do?! What should I wear? What should I bring with me? What should I tell her?

freelancr · 04-07-2009, 09:04

what should I do?
You might want to read some of the articles on here about contracts, prices, etc, Jobs and Resources - FreelanceSwitch

what should I wear?
a mankini

what should I bring with me?
a goat

what should I tell her?
that you like goats and wish for her to join in

steveb · 04-07-2009, 10:20

I would check out her bathtubs first, to be frank. Have a shower in one, drop the soap in the slippery water, fumble around pretending you have dodgy knees and if the bathtub feels safe, take the job on. No point in getting sued down the road as an accessory to misrepresentation. Don't wear what you have on in your avatar.

(In fact, you could get a new avatar - we've seen that one and the joke has worn off, thin as it was).

Maerk · 04-07-2009, 10:28

Pretty sure you said you weren't about to start offering your services professionally until you upped your game, both your coding and design skills were quite weak last I saw, though you haven't posted anything since our scathing review of your work - just honestly can't imagine you've improved THAT much yet.

Would be very very honest about your skill level with her, do not sell her something you cannot deliver.

But yes, check freelance switch - consider your rates, time it'll take you, any deadlines she might have, her needs and requirements, target audience, any information about her business (and very seriously, whether you can actually deliver on her requirements - there is no shame in saying it's not something you feel you can deliver, it's respectful to the client). Sort contracts, and make sure you limit how many revisions you agree to for free etc.

PointandStare · 04-07-2009, 12:57

And Get A Frikking Contract Before You Do Any Work!

nick08 · 04-07-2009, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveb

(In fact, you could get a new avatar - we've seen that one and the joke has worn off, thin as it was).

haha, done

nick08 · 04-07-2009, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maerk

Pretty sure you said you weren't about to start offering your services professionally until you upped your game, both your coding and design skills were quite weak last I saw, though you haven't posted anything since our scathing review of your work - just honestly can't imagine you've improved THAT much yet.

Would be very very honest about your skill level with her, do not sell her something you cannot deliver.

But yes, check freelance switch - consider your rates, time it'll take you, any deadlines she might have, her needs and requirements, target audience, any information about her business (and very seriously, whether you can actually deliver on her requirements - there is no shame in saying it's not something you feel you can deliver, it's respectful to the client). Sort contracts, and make sure you limit how many revisions you agree to for free etc.

I have upped my game.

Glixe Web Design <-- my site

marksk01 · 04-07-2009, 17:50

The font in the middle is very very pixelated... just so you know

nick08 · 04-07-2009, 17:54

I know - I've messed around with different fonts, and I really want to jump on the huge font bandwagon but not sure which one to go with. Also the entire thing isn't centered, this was a mistake from the very start. It's all positioned from the left. I need to go back and make it in one div and center that div, and make them all 0 from left in that div.

marksk01 · 04-07-2009, 18:06

Then I suggest you do this

especially if you know this stuff

nick08 · 04-07-2009, 18:14

Waiting on Maerk's reply!

Maerk · 04-07-2009, 20:10

Haha, well you have improved a great deal no doubt, good job. You've still got a long way to go on the basics though, simply takes time to improve on some things. So I stand by my point about making sure you feel confident you can deliver the goods to the client, after all they're not paying for your training

Shaun · 04-07-2009, 21:20

i love meeting with clients. personally, i treat them all differently when it comes to the initial meets. i.e. the bigger clients i've worn a suit, small/medium businesses i've dressed smart/casual or worn a company polo shirt and for friends and formal clients i've worn anything.

a tip: be prepared for any questions and if you're a figiter or one of those people who like to shake their leg when sitting down... refrain.

jg9 · 05-07-2009, 01:00

Quote:

I have upped my game.

Glixe Web Design <-- my site

Cheeky fuck, you've blatantly ripped my site!

Maerk · 05-07-2009, 01:40

Fucking hell. I did wonder at a glance if it was borrowed but couldn't place it.

DKuntz2 · 05-07-2009, 02:22

Jord · 05-07-2009, 02:32

my days. Shameless that is. Anything to say for yourself?

Shaun · 05-07-2009, 02:36

Louk · 05-07-2009, 02:53

It's funny because even the ripoff was done poorly.

Upped your game indeed.

I'd suggest leaving this forum forever, before jg9 finds out where you live.

nick08 · 05-07-2009, 06:38

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I knew posting that here was a bad idea.

MAKING NEW SITE ASAP SITE OWNER IM SORRYYYYYYYY I LOVED YOUR SITE AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT ONE UP FOR MYSELF IN A COUPLE DAYS I M SORRYYYYYYYLOL

04-07-2009, 07:53	#1 (permalink)
nick08 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87	nervous about first real client So today I struck up a conversation with a woman who says she runs a business selling bath tubs to older people. I offered to do a website for them, she said she has one but hates it and I said I could take over all their web work, and she said great, I gave her my card, she said after the 4th of July weekend is over she will give me a call and I can meet her and we can discuss it all in further detail. I'm super excited yet super nervous about the whole thing; what should I do?! What should I wear? What should I bring with me? What should I tell her?

04-07-2009, 10:20	#3 (permalink)
steveb La force silencieuse Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Финляндия Posts: 17,283	I would check out her bathtubs first, to be frank. Have a shower in one, drop the soap in the slippery water, fumble around pretending you have dodgy knees and if the bathtub feels safe, take the job on. No point in getting sued down the road as an accessory to misrepresentation. Don't wear what you have on in your avatar. (In fact, you could get a new avatar - we've seen that one and the joke has worn off, thin as it was). __________________ I've been to France twice on a hovercraft, so your argument is invalid.

04-07-2009, 10:28	#4 (permalink)
Maerk Doodler. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 3,212	Pretty sure you said you weren't about to start offering your services professionally until you upped your game, both your coding and design skills were quite weak last I saw, though you haven't posted anything since our scathing review of your work - just honestly can't imagine you've improved THAT much yet. Would be very very honest about your skill level with her, do not sell her something you cannot deliver. But yes, check freelance switch - consider your rates, time it'll take you, any deadlines she might have, her needs and requirements, target audience, any information about her business (and very seriously, whether you can actually deliver on her requirements - there is no shame in saying it's not something you feel you can deliver, it's respectful to the client). Sort contracts, and make sure you limit how many revisions you agree to for free etc. __________________ Squid Upload Pie The Simple Image Sharing Tool

04-07-2009, 12:57	#5 (permalink)
PointandStare Watch it sonny Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,832	And Get A Frikking Contract Before You Do Any Work! __________________ online development agency

04-07-2009, 20:10	#12 (permalink)
Maerk Doodler. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 3,212	Haha, well you have improved a great deal no doubt, good job. You've still got a long way to go on the basics though, simply takes time to improve on some things. So I stand by my point about making sure you feel confident you can deliver the goods to the client, after all they're not paying for your training __________________ Squid Upload Pie The Simple Image Sharing Tool

04-07-2009, 09:04	#2 (permalink)
freelancr Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,354	what should I do? You might want to read some of the articles on here about contracts, prices, etc, Jobs and Resources - FreelanceSwitch what should I wear? a mankini what should I bring with me? a goat what should I tell her? that you like goats and wish for her to join in

04-07-2009, 17:50	#8 (permalink)
marksk01 Got to start somewhere Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cardiff Posts: 340	The font in the middle is very very pixelated... just so you know

04-07-2009, 17:54	#9 (permalink)
nick08 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87	I know - I've messed around with different fonts, and I really want to jump on the huge font bandwagon but not sure which one to go with. Also the entire thing isn't centered, this was a mistake from the very start. It's all positioned from the left. I need to go back and make it in one div and center that div, and make them all 0 from left in that div.

04-07-2009, 18:06	#10 (permalink)
marksk01 Got to start somewhere Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cardiff Posts: 340	Then I suggest you do this especially if you know this stuff

04-07-2009, 18:14	#11 (permalink)
nick08 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87	Waiting on Maerk's reply!

04-07-2009, 21:20	#13 (permalink)
Shaun Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 5,936	i love meeting with clients. personally, i treat them all differently when it comes to the initial meets. i.e. the bigger clients i've worn a suit, small/medium businesses i've dressed smart/casual or worn a company polo shirt and for friends and formal clients i've worn anything. a tip: be prepared for any questions and if you're a figiter or one of those people who like to shake their leg when sitting down... refrain. __________________ @Beans_n_Toast

05-07-2009, 01:40	#15 (permalink)
Maerk Doodler. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 3,212	Fucking hell. I did wonder at a glance if it was borrowed but couldn't place it. __________________ Squid Upload Pie The Simple Image Sharing Tool

05-07-2009, 02:22	#16 (permalink)
DKuntz2 umlaut forever! Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,898	wow.

05-07-2009, 02:32	#17 (permalink)
Jord In there like swimwear Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Leeds/London Posts: 126	my days. Shameless that is. Anything to say for yourself?

05-07-2009, 02:36	#18 (permalink)
Shaun Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 5,936	lolz __________________ @Beans_n_Toast

05-07-2009, 02:53	#19 (permalink)
Louk Tron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 127	It's funny because even the ripoff was done poorly. Upped your game indeed. I'd suggest leaving this forum forever, before jg9 finds out where you live. __________________ Fringe Focus \| Design Blog

05-07-2009, 06:38	#20 (permalink)
nick08 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87	ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I knew posting that here was a bad idea. MAKING NEW SITE ASAP SITE OWNER IM SORRYYYYYYYY I LOVED YOUR SITE AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT ONE UP FOR MYSELF IN A COUPLE DAYS I M SORRYYYYYYYLOL

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