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luxbrand · 08-04-2008, 10:28

I don't normally do work on the side (for money), but the opportunity has just come along to do a logo for a company that is sponsoring an upcoming event.
Thing is that I don't have time to dedicate to it during work hours (that's for DT posting

), so I told our marketing person to tell him I can do it on my own time for a fee (no price given). That little voice inside me is already shouting at me to proceed with caution. He's a close business partner of my boss. Should I let my boss know that I'm going to do this so I won't have problems later?

I know I should ask him a few questions first about his company to not look like a gold digger (though I could do with the extra cash). It will make my life a hell of a lot easier making a proper logo for him as the logo he provided was no good (and it's not that other one I showed in the bad logos thread).

Should I ask for €1,000,000 for the job with half as a deposit?

Seriously though. I've no idea how much to charge for a logo. Any tips appreciated. Should I prepare some sort of contract so I don't get burned? Any one got a template that won't scare the bejaysus out of him?

Thanks.

And sorry for the long post (I guess I could have made his logo by now).

designneverdies · 08-04-2008, 10:31

a million euros? is that not a shit load of money?

luxbrand · 08-04-2008, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by designneverdies

a million euros? is that not a shit load of money?

I've a life to live.

designneverdies · 08-04-2008, 10:35

yeah i know i'm not saying your charging to much just never heard anybody on here say they were going to charge £800,000 for a logo. im flabbergasted. good for you if you can.

Coops · 08-04-2008, 10:36

Oooh, fucking hell mate. You're going to poach the work off your company, so you can earn the cash for yourself? And the client is a close business partner of your boss? Oh dear. Oh fucking dear. Proceed with caution...

Is it entirely your decision whether your company turns away work due to you 'no time to dedicate to it during working hours'? Surely your boss should be the judge of that?

Coops · 08-04-2008, 10:37

I actually thought you were joking with the 'million euros' thing. You are, aren't you?

weldo · 08-04-2008, 10:40

it is a joke.
the figure is followed by "Seriously though"

if its at all work related - be straight to everyone involved.
don't piss yer boss off by stealing work on the quiet. thats just stupid.

Coops · 08-04-2008, 10:47

As an employer, I don't condone this type of thing.

luxbrand · 08-04-2008, 11:00

I am planning to let my boss know about it. Right now.
And yes I was joking about the million.
The thing is that I'm an in-house designer for a non-design orientated company so it's not like I am stealing business from the company. The opportunity came up because some other guy doesn't have a clue about making a proper logo. At least that's how I see it. But I don't want problems for myself which is why I am being straight up with my boss. If he has problems with it I won't go near it and won't be bitter.

Coops · 08-04-2008, 11:02

Ok fair enough our kid.

weldo · 08-04-2008, 11:04

it's sort of an 'unspoken given' that we all do the occaissional foreigner here ...

as long as its not in work time, there's no problem ... but i know some places can be arsey about it ...

CharmingMan · 08-04-2008, 11:38

iId say come up with 3 iterations for £600

any further adjustments chrage at standard hourly rate of xx per hour

luxbrand · 08-04-2008, 13:59

Cheers CharmingMan.

luxbrand · 08-04-2008, 17:16

Despite my boss saying he's OK with it, he didn't convince me that he was 100% OK with it so I'm going to give this one a miss. Too many uncertainties involved. Pah.

Limbo · 08-04-2008, 17:21

I'll do it for a million ponds.

H3LLRA1Z3R · 09-04-2008, 02:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limbo

I'll do it for a million ponds.

You must have a shit load of gold fish that need a home?

illvibe · 09-04-2008, 02:55

Ba Dum Tshhhhhhhhhh.

Aibrean · 15-04-2008, 13:44

I do by hourly rate...but pretty steep since the logo is the root the company. Mine is $100/hr (63E/hr) but tweaks and everything is charged into that. And I charge additionally for client meeting/calls.

£600 is pretty average for a pro logo.

venturewise · 22-04-2008, 19:40

...Still LOL at the "goldfish need a home" bit..... *snicker*

08-04-2008, 10:28	#1 (permalink)
luxbrand Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 411	Logo price advice I don't normally do work on the side (for money), but the opportunity has just come along to do a logo for a company that is sponsoring an upcoming event. Thing is that I don't have time to dedicate to it during work hours (that's for DT posting ), so I told our marketing person to tell him I can do it on my own time for a fee (no price given). That little voice inside me is already shouting at me to proceed with caution. He's a close business partner of my boss. Should I let my boss know that I'm going to do this so I won't have problems later? I know I should ask him a few questions first about his company to not look like a gold digger (though I could do with the extra cash). It will make my life a hell of a lot easier making a proper logo for him as the logo he provided was no good (and it's not that other one I showed in the bad logos thread). Should I ask for €1,000,000 for the job with half as a deposit? Seriously though. I've no idea how much to charge for a logo. Any tips appreciated. Should I prepare some sort of contract so I don't get burned? Any one got a template that won't scare the bejaysus out of him? Thanks. And sorry for the long post (I guess I could have made his logo by now). __________________ httpcolonforwardslashforwardslashwwwdotbranddotluforwardslash

08-04-2008, 10:31	#2 (permalink)
designneverdies wannabe Join Date: May 2007 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 1,609	a million euros? is that not a shit load of money? __________________ If your colours are starting to run, let them all run, run away from you. Flux - Bloc Party Design Never Dies A message to newcomers. This is not google. Before you ask us here why not try typing it into google. 60% of the time it works every time.

08-04-2008, 10:35	#4 (permalink)
designneverdies wannabe Join Date: May 2007 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 1,609	yeah i know i'm not saying your charging to much just never heard anybody on here say they were going to charge £800,000 for a logo. im flabbergasted. good for you if you can. __________________ If your colours are starting to run, let them all run, run away from you. Flux - Bloc Party Design Never Dies A message to newcomers. This is not google. Before you ask us here why not try typing it into google. 60% of the time it works every time.

08-04-2008, 10:40	#7 (permalink)
weldo now with added beard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,232	it is a joke. the figure is followed by "Seriously though" if its at all work related - be straight to everyone involved. don't piss yer boss off by stealing work on the quiet. thats just stupid. __________________ fuck signatures

08-04-2008, 11:00	#9 (permalink)
luxbrand Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 411	I am planning to let my boss know about it. Right now. And yes I was joking about the million. The thing is that I'm an in-house designer for a non-design orientated company so it's not like I am stealing business from the company. The opportunity came up because some other guy doesn't have a clue about making a proper logo. At least that's how I see it. But I don't want problems for myself which is why I am being straight up with my boss. If he has problems with it I won't go near it and won't be bitter. __________________ httpcolonforwardslashforwardslashwwwdotbranddotluforwardslash

08-04-2008, 10:36	#5 (permalink)
Coops Pops. Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,870	Oooh, fucking hell mate. You're going to poach the work off your company, so you can earn the cash for yourself? And the client is a close business partner of your boss? Oh dear. Oh fucking dear. Proceed with caution... Is it entirely your decision whether your company turns away work due to you 'no time to dedicate to it during working hours'? Surely your boss should be the judge of that?

08-04-2008, 10:37	#6 (permalink)
Coops Pops. Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,870	I actually thought you were joking with the 'million euros' thing. You are, aren't you?

08-04-2008, 10:47	#8 (permalink)
Coops Pops. Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,870	As an employer, I don't condone this type of thing.

08-04-2008, 11:02	#10 (permalink)
Coops Pops. Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,870	Ok fair enough our kid.

08-04-2008, 11:04	#11 (permalink)
weldo now with added beard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,232	it's sort of an 'unspoken given' that we all do the occaissional foreigner here ... as long as its not in work time, there's no problem ... but i know some places can be arsey about it ... __________________ fuck signatures

08-04-2008, 11:38	#12 (permalink)
CharmingMan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 553	iId say come up with 3 iterations for £600 any further adjustments chrage at standard hourly rate of xx per hour __________________ Say NO to web 2.0

08-04-2008, 13:59	#13 (permalink)
luxbrand Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 411	Cheers CharmingMan. __________________ httpcolonforwardslashforwardslashwwwdotbranddotluforwardslash

08-04-2008, 17:16	#14 (permalink)
luxbrand Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 411	Despite my boss saying he's OK with it, he didn't convince me that he was 100% OK with it so I'm going to give this one a miss. Too many uncertainties involved. Pah. __________________ httpcolonforwardslashforwardslashwwwdotbranddotluforwardslash

08-04-2008, 17:21	#15 (permalink)
Limbo On yer bike... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,957	I'll do it for a million ponds. __________________ CSS Search Engine

09-04-2008, 02:55	#17 (permalink)
illvibe say werd. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 1,260	Ba Dum Tshhhhhhhhhh.

15-04-2008, 13:44	#18 (permalink)
Aibrean Art Director Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 77	I do by hourly rate...but pretty steep since the logo is the root the company. Mine is $100/hr (63E/hr) but tweaks and everything is charged into that. And I charge additionally for client meeting/calls. £600 is pretty average for a pro logo.

22-04-2008, 19:40	#19 (permalink)
venturewise Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 52	...Still LOL at the "goldfish need a home" bit..... snicker

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