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sub · 11-02-2008, 07:06

Thought this made some good reading.
Practical advise on deciding your job title posted by ndc over at DO...

Quote:

It’s a sad fact. Most freelancers and entrepreneurs have silly job titles.

People have a terrible tendency to get carried away with their new-found power, and end up making fools of themselves. Make sure you’re not one of them – read on!

Warning: If You're Using These Job Titles, Stop Now! | Put Things Off

datahound · 11-02-2008, 07:09

It says “Phil Jones” on the top line.

Underneath that is his job title: “Plumber”.

It’s great because it tells me everything I need to know about what he does.

He doesn’t try to dress up his chosen line of work by calling himself a “Strategic Pipeline Analyst” or an “Aqueous Substance Manager”.

He does what it says on the tin.

Do Gooder · 11-02-2008, 07:17

nowt up with art director imo.

rest are all fanny though.

sub · 11-02-2008, 07:20

Doesn't say anything about Managing Director, though.
I can't decide if that's 'too management' or a fine position to a design agency?

Do Gooder · 11-02-2008, 07:26

funny. when i think about it a job description shoud clearly describe what you spend most of your time doing in a working day.

Mmm. we spend most of our time handling accounts.. so that makes us .... ... Noooooooooooooo.

Mr Fred · 11-02-2008, 07:32

dont agree -who is he?

Why bother having a pop at a whole industry that has survived quite nicely with predefined roles, titles and career routes?

Hes just another sour cunt who cant make the grade and decides to enlighten us with shit comedy insight.

d*d · 11-02-2008, 07:42

He has a point, no use calling yourself a creative director unless you direct people, anyway he's not having a go at the roles- just tat a lot of them don't count outside of a design agency

sub · 11-02-2008, 07:49

It's point of view and I tend to agree with most of what he is saying. Be clear with your clients about what you do. Which is a fair point.

datahound · 11-02-2008, 08:26

If only I knew?

Nick-PTO · 11-02-2008, 08:30

I'm glad some of you saw the funny side!

As d*d realised, it wasn't a pop at the whole design industry -- valid and established roles are fine, and I've got nothing against them. Instead, it should serve as a light-hearted warning to the thousands of one-person attic start-ups with a cracked version of Photoshop and little-to-no design experience that they might consider thinking twice before giving themselves a title normally associated with an industry expert with 8 years experience.

I've also written an article about using the term "Freelance" in your job title. Those of you who haven't yet called me a c*nt might find it interesting.

Do Gooder · 11-02-2008, 08:35

hullo

sub · 11-02-2008, 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-PTO

I've also written an article about using the term "Freelance" in your job title.

A link for the lazy: Are You Using The F Word Around Your Clients? | Put Things Off

Hello and welcome, Nick

Mr Fred · 11-02-2008, 10:06

great.

luxbrand · 11-02-2008, 14:17

We have some prize winners in our place:

Vice-President of International Business Development

reads like this on the biz card:

VP of Intl. Business Development

What a wank wank title! 2 guys with that one. And there is no President! They argued that folk from the US take you more seriously if they think you're higher up on the ladder in the organisation.
We joked about the Master of the Universe title at work before.

11-02-2008, 07:09	#2 (permalink)
datahound Spare Parts Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bracknell Forest Posts: 4,620	It says “Phil Jones” on the top line. Underneath that is his job title: “Plumber”. It’s great because it tells me everything I need to know about what he does. He doesn’t try to dress up his chosen line of work by calling himself a “Strategic Pipeline Analyst” or an “Aqueous Substance Manager”. He does what it says on the tin. __________________ poochmedia \| Computer Spare Parts \| Computer & Telephone Disposals

11-02-2008, 07:17	#3 (permalink)
Do Gooder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,309	nowt up with art director imo. rest are all fanny though. __________________ anti social marketing

11-02-2008, 07:20	#4 (permalink)
sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 3,668	Doesn't say anything about Managing Director, though. I can't decide if that's 'too management' or a fine position to a design agency? __________________ Freelance Brighton \| Design Agency Brighton \| Twitter \| Linkedin

11-02-2008, 07:26	#5 (permalink)
Do Gooder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,309	funny. when i think about it a job description shoud clearly describe what you spend most of your time doing in a working day. Mmm. we spend most of our time handling accounts.. so that makes us .... ... Noooooooooooooo. __________________ anti social marketing Last edited by Do Gooder : 11-02-2008 at 07:51.

11-02-2008, 07:49	#8 (permalink)
sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 3,668	It's point of view and I tend to agree with most of what he is saying. Be clear with your clients about what you do. Which is a fair point. __________________ Freelance Brighton \| Design Agency Brighton \| Twitter \| Linkedin

11-02-2008, 07:32	#6 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,275	dont agree -who is he? Why bother having a pop at a whole industry that has survived quite nicely with predefined roles, titles and career routes? Hes just another sour cunt who cant make the grade and decides to enlighten us with shit comedy insight.

11-02-2008, 07:42	#7 (permalink)
d*d Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,058	He has a point, no use calling yourself a creative director unless you direct people, anyway he's not having a go at the roles- just tat a lot of them don't count outside of a design agency

11-02-2008, 08:26	#9 (permalink)
datahound Spare Parts Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bracknell Forest Posts: 4,620	If only I knew? __________________ poochmedia \| Computer Spare Parts \| Computer & Telephone Disposals

11-02-2008, 08:30	#10 (permalink)
Nick-PTO Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1	*The sour cnt replies** I'm glad some of you saw the funny side! As dd realised, it wasn't a pop at the whole design industry -- valid and established roles are fine, and I've got nothing against them. Instead, it should serve as a light-hearted warning to the thousands of one-person attic start-ups with a cracked version of Photoshop and little-to-no design experience that they might consider thinking twice before giving themselves a title normally associated with an industry expert with 8 years experience. I've also written an article about using the term "Freelance" in your job title. Those of you who haven't yet called me a cnt might find it interesting.

11-02-2008, 08:35	#11 (permalink)
Do Gooder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,309	hullo __________________ anti social marketing

11-02-2008, 10:06	#13 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,275	great.

11-02-2008, 14:17	#14 (permalink)
luxbrand Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 411	We have some prize winners in our place: Vice-President of International Business Development reads like this on the biz card: VP of Intl. Business Development What a wank wank title! 2 guys with that one. And there is no President! They argued that folk from the US take you more seriously if they think you're higher up on the ladder in the organisation. We joked about the Master of the Universe title at work before. __________________ httpcolonforwardslashforwardslashwwwdotbranddotluforwardslash

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