It WAS Elisa and their Radiolinja. I have illegal copies of all the Elisa fonts, including that one, but I'm not sharing (or even using them). I worked for the company which did Radiolinja's in-house publications, so having the fonts at hand was a given. And a taken. So I claim my douze points, thanks.
The first example must be one of the newish Microsoft fonts, but I'm not certain.