well you know, i'm not a person who says, hmm want to learn this , or want to do that. it's more like hey man, that looks nice, lemme try and then i'm learning that thing. So everything what's coming along i'll try to learn.... same with this, I thought maybe you guys know the deal.. but to bad you don't... but thnx everyone for helping me out, you know you are the nr1/2 board i know for graphics and eveyrthing!